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Published on June 27, 2014

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Season 5 of The Clone Wars was going along fine and dandy (though with a distinct lack of Padmé) until the very end when suddenly EVERYTHING WAS RUINED. I mean, they made good narrative choices, but I am cry. And the sixth season only has 13 episodes, which is not enough time to do anything, so I have a feeling that some of this stuff is going to leave me hanging forever, and I will always be upset. Just… great job failing, Jedi Order. Not saying this is why you’re about to be wiped out, except for the part where it really is.

By which I mean to say… um, here’s a liveblog?

Necessary Warning: My on-the-spot ravings follow, and there are swears. If you do not like swears or occasional all-caps, I’d steer clear.

If you missed any of my previous Clone Wars liveblogs, you can catch up with season one, season two, season three, and season four.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, Revival, Adi Gallia, Savage Opress

Revival

Season 5 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars liveblogging here. Darth Maul has legs, anything is possible.

And now Maul and Savage are going at it. Savage, you don’t seem to realize that there is a pattern to your life.

Obi-Wan’s all *sigh* pirates.

Pirates in flying saucers apparently.

Maul: I’M A LORD, ER, CRIME LORD

Yeah, can’t lie, I missed Hondo.

Obi-Wan really is having a hard time with the fact that no one can tell the difference between a Jedi and a Sith.

Come on, Adi, you can take Savage even if you are a quarter his size, you’re a badass.

NO UGH SAVAGE YOU ARE JUST I CANNOT I AM ANGRY

Yeah, you boys made Obi-Wan mad. He’s got two lightsabers and his bitchface on.

Dammit, Obi-Wan, that’s not fair, you were doing so good.

So when you get injured as a Nightsister-Sith you LEAK DARK SIDE?!!?!

“Insolence? We’re pirates! We don’t even know what that means.” Hondo, I luv you.

Stop telling Obi-Wan this is personal, he’s still right, AARRGHHHH you are pissing me off, Yoda, you should know better.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, A War on Two Fronts

A War On Two Fronts

Wow, they took Onderon? That’s bad news.

Good debate, guys. Deciding whether training up insurgents is, in fact, creating terrorism.

Ahsoka is getting all grown up with her commander voice on.

ONDERON IS FULL OF DINOSAURS

And Lux is here again, being kind of dead weight as usual.

“Oh great.” Ahsoka, your self-awareness over your crush is adorable.

Aw, Anakin, your awareness over Ahsoka’s crush is adorable.

 

Front Runners

I love this faux-Roman thing they’ve got going with the new crappy king.

Man, no one here wears hooded cloaks, you’d think a bunch of hooded Jedi would REALLY STAND OUT.

I do love that in order to make these episodes work, they literally have to admit that battledroids are stupid and just designed to take over by sheer numbers. They must be so cheap to produce.

Steela is so friggin awesome.

Pretty sure you shouldn’t stare at a giant fire with nightvision goggles on.

Daddy Anakin just feels so bad about Ahsoka’s feeeeeeeelings. Because he knows what a damned hypocrite he is being all married.

This rebellion is going too well, it’s going to go horribly wrong.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, The Soft War, Lux, Saw, Steela

The Soft War

Onderon locals don’t seem super convinced about the rebellion.

Steela’s brother needs to cool his bro rage.

Steela’s like, “Lux, your crush is so inappropriate right now.” YES, WOMAN, YOU TELL HIM.

Because no one called how incredibly wrong that rescue was going to go.

Are we turning the commander on the inside by pure chance? Because that would be super useful and pretty cool.

Is that like a laser guillotine?

So a bunch of guys with spears just held off those battledroids?

 

Tipping Points

Smug dinosaur just sat on that battledroid.

And Ahsoka gives the bro punch after Lux gets that kiss he’s been angling for. You’re a good friend, Ahsoka.

One thing that’s never been made quite clear—where are the rebels getting their munitions from?

Anakin and Obi-Wan plotting to help Ahsoka. You guys. You’re so schemy and clever.

Can pirate cameos be a thing more often?

“What good will it do us if she gets herself killed?” HE SAID THE THING.

You are kidding me with this. [Saw]’s going to be responsible for the death of his sister?

Aaaaand make Ahsoka part responsible too while your at it. Because she doesn’t have enough things to feel shitty about.

The lesson here, kids, is NEVER KISS ANYONE AND SAY “JUST IN CASE.” DO NOT.

“This has been quite a journey for our Padawan.” Yeah, ’cause you’re raising her together, huh, Obi-Wan?

“Remember this day. The day Onderon was free again!” That’s… the best you got, king? I am less than stirred.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, The Gathering, Tiny Wookiee Jedi

The Gathering

TINY WOOKIEE JEDI

Aw, yeeessssss, we are going to build some lightsabers.

Let’s all go to lightsaber church!

Aw, don’t make Bif go alone! This is the creepiest test. They really want these kids to feel like they earned something.

Little nerdy Nautolan Jedi is just the cutest

And that’s what you get for being a jerk, Petro.

So we’ve got selfishness, impatience, indecisiveness, over-reliance on technology, cowardice, and lack of faith in yourself.

Haaaaaa, and Yoda’s like, did you really think we were just gonna let you die in there if you didn’t make it out in time? You kids.

 

A Test of Strength

THAT’S DAVID TENNANT

I KNOW THAT VOICE ANYWHERE

Aaahahaha, he even sounds like the Doctor. This is the best.

He’s like a robot Ollivander for Jedi, I am in love with this entire concept it is perfect.

Ah, that’s interesting. So the retcon here is that Kaiburr crystals are simply lightsaber crystals, not one specific mythical item. That’s better than what it was in Splinter of the Mind’s Eye.

PETRO, YOU ARE SUCH A PAIN IN THE BUTT

“Is this part of our training?” “It is now.” Right answer, Ahsoka. You are smartest.

Again with that lightsaber black market. Makes you wonder how many non-Jedi have them….

Good ploy, Petro, you get a point. But only one.

You stupid bastard, you’ve got no arms left! (It had to be said.)

OH NO YOU LOST AHSOKA

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, Anakin, David Tennant droid

Bound for Rescue

Love Obi-Wan’s standard thinky holographic pose.

Love these kids putting their lightsabers together with the Force when you know Luke puts his together with a pair of pliers.

R2 is fixing David Tennant. Just more proof that R2-D2 is the ideal Doctor’s companion.

What, you are going to sell her to someone who wants a female Jedi dead or alive? Ew, Hondo that’s disgusting.

KID JEDI ACROBATS. GOOD JOB BBYS.

Obi-Wan, you are such a lovely punk. But if you didn’t feel the need to rub Grievous’ face in it HE WOULD BE DEAD ON THAT SHIP YOU DON’T TELL HIM THAT IT’S ABOUT TO BLOW UP.

I love that lil’ Jedi girl who sounds like she has a cold the whole time.

Ahsoka’s like, “I remember when I used to be this crazy, but that doesn’t mean you can do it.”

SAD GAMMOREAN CLOWN

 

A Necessary Bond

This rescue could be going better.

Good thing Grievous needed a place to land?

Yeah, Hondo is so used to dealing with Jedi who are too fair and don’t really care about him unless he interferes. Now he’s gotta deal with Dooku.

R2 cursing at battledroids.

“Well, today is a new day. And lucky for you, today I like children.” I feel like Hondo speaks for so many people.

I’m sorry, why wouldn’t Hondo’s ship just shoot at Grievous? Isn’t that the easiest way to back him off?

Sure, now you shoot at him.

The Doctor-bot wants to talk about how Yoda got his crystal AND THEY STOPPED HIM. OBI-WAN WHY.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, Secret Weapons, R2-D2

Secret Weapons

Droid mission!

Uh-oh a pit droid.

Tiniest of hoppy colonels!

Poor pit droid. All the astromech droids are like, “peasant.”

Love how every upgrade the droids got comes with a serious downside. Crazy droid mad scientist.

No, colonel, you did not pull the whole “just a droid” thing, you are such an ass.

“In other words, you read maps.” Yeah, Wack is the best.

ZERO G DROID FIGHT

R2’s all, LEAVE NO MAN BEHIND.

 

A Sunny Day in the Void

Oops, comets.

R2, plz for to keep yourself from falling off the ship.

Droid rescue chain!

Thank you for picking up the encryption key, R2. At least someone knows what’s going on.

Freakiest planet.

Wack, stop being a droid racist.

Okay, colonel’s lost his mind. And R2’s not going to put up with Wack, so all astromechs together.

This episode is so weird.

Ostrich stampede?

DINOBIRD SNUGGLE

Haha, R2 beat you here, you guys suuuuuuuuck.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, Missing in Action, Gregor, R2-D2, Gascon, BZ, Wack

Missing in Action

Um, Gascon, if all the droids run out of power, you’re in a lot more trouble.

What are you literally announcing your mission in the diner, you are the biggest moron in the Republic, you are fired.

Adorable bearded clone who is not a trooper.

Okay, so clones have codes in their wrists that hold their records. That’s not a creepy signifier at all.

Whoa, he’s got a lot of tallies on his helmet. More than Rex.

Crazed Russian mob boss/Sullustan diner owner needs to stop cackling.

Gascon asked if they were ready to “get dangerous.” Where’s mah Darkwing Duck cameo?

“Get the shuttle ready to roll.” Um, it’s a spaceship? It has no wheels?

Did they really just kill Gregor after all that? That’s… awful.

 

Point of No Return

Holographic crew is creeeeepyyyy.

I love how surprised they are about this Separatist ploy when the Sullustan basically gave the whole thing away last episode.

Alright, I’m just gonna say it. Gascon is freaking annoying, and I wish someone else was in charge.

Bunny droid is my faaaaaavorite. Bunny droid ears and the tiny voice….

Yeah, R2, you go after that lil spy droid, you mess it up

R2-D2 killing aaaallll the traitors

Me: Yeah, I really don’t think BZ cares at this point. Kelsey: I mean, he’s already died like five times.

Obi-Wan stop snarking about Anakin’s attitude, you really don’t want those to be your last words if the droids don’t save your butts.

I love how Anakin’s opinion on droids is basically “Everyone who is not R2 is incompetent.”

RAINBOW EXPLOSION

And now Anakin is like “You go use millions of credits of manpower and bring me back my damn droid, he doesn’t need oxygen to survive, you all find him and you patch up his holes and you give him back and don’t talk to me anymore.”

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, Eminence, Viszla, Maul, Savage

Eminence

Great, now Death Watch wanna make friends with Maul. This will end well.

Huh, how does the Death Watch dude know enough about Sith lore to know there should only be two? Is that basically common knowledge to anyone who picks up an encyclopedia?

It’s too bad that Death Watch isn’t being played with more subtlety because the idea of a warrior culture suddenly being overtaken by a pacifistic government is really interesting.

Thanks, Maul. Thanks for choking the one lady in Death Watch. You’re a class act.

Aw, now Savage and Maul have matching robot parts. ~cooooo~

“I am Maaaauuul. This is Savage!” That line delivery was genius. I cannot stop laughing.

Black Sun! Black Sun was name-dropped!

We’re going to SEE the Black Sun? YES.

HE JUST KILLED EVERYONE. WHUT.

Did Maul basically pave the way for Xizor’s rise to power by murdering all the Falleen elite with a single lightsaber toss?

Savage just gave a literal lion’s roar.

“So the only thing you can tell me is that I will find Jabba… at Jabba’s Palace?” Oh Maul, you so sassy.

I mean, if you’re going to overthrow people, uniting all the galactic criminal organizations is not a bad idea.

 

Shades of Reason

Sure, Vizsla, talk a little LOUDER about how you’re going to discard Maul once you’re done with him, right outside his tent.

“The shipping docks are under attack. The people are demanding that we do something.” NO. REALLY? WOW, I AM SURPRISE THEY WANT YOU DO SOMETHING.

So Death Watch stops people by tying them up. (It’s an act here, but still.) Um, isn’t that sort of a perfect tool for pacifist troops? Wouldn’t they do the exact same thing? It makes Death Watch look pacifistic too. It’s… weird.

Man, this storyline is making Satine look like an idiot. Her disbelief and inability to counter the disillusion of Mandalore’s people is just bad politics, and she was much smarter than this in previous episodes.

Ha, yeah, using the single combat challenge with the Manadlore rule of succession was a good play. Vizsla’s basically brainless for not considering that might be coming.

That was one intense decapitation. I mean, they’re usually intense, I suppose. But whoa.

Okay, people of Mandalore, it’s definitely time for you to call bullshit. This is whacko.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, The Lawless, Obi-Wan, Satine

The Lawless

“Morality separates heroes from villains.” Um… that’s a nice thought, I guess. Not sure that’s it.

Damn, Satine’s nephew got tall.

“You summoned me, masters?” “Yeah, we got a message from your girlfriend.”

Yoda, Ki-Adi, it’s time to admit that being slave to the Republic is compromising your Jedi values.

Yeeessss, using the old come-into-my-ship-so-I-can-steal-your-armor ploy. Wait, that means that when they do it in A New Hope, it was probably Obi-Wan’s idea. YAASSS.

“I do my own bidding.” That’s a way better rescue line, Luke. Take notes.

So basically that rescue plan didn’t work because Anakin lent Obi-Wan a really crappy ship?

SAW THAT FRIDGING COMING LIGHTYEARS AWAY. THANKS GUYS.

OH SHIT, DEATH WATCH LADY IS SATINE’S SISTER, ISN’T SHE?

Palpatine’s all, Do I really have to do everything myself? I thought we took care of this problem ages ago.

Aw hell, Maul, daddy’s home. You in trouble now.

Yup, called Death Watch lady. Partly because she seemed similarly amused at Obi-Wan’s glib attitude.

Poor Savage. He had no idea why they were even fighting that dude, and now he gets to die thinking he sucks.

What, he’s not going to kill Maul? He… I don’t want to know what “other uses” amount to.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, Sabotage, Anakin

Sabotage

Heh. Buzz droids.

Omg Anakin, Ahsoka can’t take you anywhere.

Oh dear. Jedi terrorism.

Anakin’s like, Help the droid cop, Ahsoka. I’m going to stand here and feel out… stuff.

Suspects wife calling Anakin on all that elitist Jedi crap. This plotline is actually a super cool idea.

Not to rain on your parade Ani-soka, but this sounds like a real easy frame-up.

Aaand, that’s what you get for being so tied into the Republic machine, guys

“I would have thought that working for the Jedi paid better.” Aahahhahaha. Ahaha. Aha-haha. That’s hilarious, Ahsoka. You’re so sweet.

And the Jedi are getting less popular in public opinion. Quelle surprise.

 

The Jedi Who Knew Too Much

During Yoda’s funeral speech—Ahsoka and Bariss: *chat about sadness* Obi-Wan: This is a great speech, Imma internalize this. Anakin: This speech is crap, I’m pissed.

Man, Tarkin is wearing a lot of rouge. Is all I’m saying.

No, but I want Ahsoka to spend the rest of the episode with Barriss. *whine*

Yup. People are pissed the Jedi are being used in the war. Not surprised.

And now Ahsoka is framed for murder. Great.

Ew, Tarkin, no, do not touch Ahsoka. You’re the worst.

Shit, you [clones] just got Anakin Rage over that. Super unpretty.

NO AHSOKA DO NOT JAILBREAK NOT SMART.

These interiors are straight-up Death Star interiors.

Creepy, creepy clone statues… Gosh, everything is starting to look more and more Empire-y.

Ahsoka. I cannot. handle. how badass. you are.

Poor Anakin. He’s gonna cry big papa bear tears if this doesn’t end well.

They sort of did a Fugitive send up just there.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, To Catch A Jedi, Ahsoka, Barriss, Asajj

To Catch A Jedi

Plo Koon is like, aw no, not my girl. No way. Yeah, Plo Koon. You go, Plo Koon.

Yoda’s like, I wanna send the two people who are most convinced of Ahsoka’s innocence. And then Mace was all, Not Anakin, though. And then Obi-Wan was all, shut up, yes Anakin. Idiots.

AHOSKA’S MUG SHOT IS FIERCE

That’s right, you call your Barriss, she’s best in all the Coruscant.

Did you just trade that guy rations for his only warm cloak? Was he too drunk to realize he was getting the bum deal? Why does he talk like a sheep?

Little Twi’lek kid is all “Whhhhhhy would you make a hole in the elevator ceiling, crazy woman?”

OMG ASAJJ, HAAAIIIIIII. *waves*

Anakin is gonna cry seeing his Padawan with Ventress. Everyone should have to work with Ventress. Ventress Wars.

Man, don’t frame Asajj for your BS. That’s mean.

You know, it’s not Barriss, is it? Because I really don’t want it to be Barriss, but that’s seemed likely since she wouldn’t tell Ahsoka where her intel came from.

 

Star Wars The Clone Wars, The Wrong Jedi, Barriss Offee, Anakin

The Wrong Jedi

Obi-Wan is really damn upset over Tarkin’s evil face and politics.

OMG THIS IS LIKE THE KLINGON COURTROOM IN STAR TREK VI.

Aaaaand then they expelled Ahsoka and Anakin freaked out and Obi-Wan cried. Seriously, Yoda was like “We’re not exactly in agreement,” and Obi-Wan looked wistfully to the heavens.

Padmé defending her surrogate daughter before the Senate. Awww.

Anakin, where are Ventress’ lightsabers? Where are they PAY ATTENTION.

Why would the Republic even need the death penalty? They have five million planets at their disposal for dumping criminals, there is no reason to murder anyone.

“Maybe, he should be looking at you.” Wow, Tarkin. Not your best court comeback.

Nice, Anakin. That was a risky and super smart ploy, forcing Barriss to use Asajj’s lightsabers.

Barriss, at this point, everyone can see that you made a boo-boo. Time to stop the fight.

This trial took like two hours. Worst process ever.

I mean, Barriss is all—the Jedi are fighting for the Dark Side now. And… she’s not actually wrong.

Say no, Ahsoka.

YES. GOOD JOB AHSOKA. THEY WERE ASSHOLES.

Yeah, you guys screwed up and you deserve all of that, you should be ashamed.

Anakin’s like, I really get you wanting to leave the Order, and Ahsoka’s like yeah, I know (seriously, everyone knows you’re married to Padmé, just get over it, this is my moment, jerk.)

So… sad now.

 

Everything hurts. And since most of the female Jedi Council members are AFK or dead, it came off even worse—just a bunch of dude bro Jedi Masters acting like they were doing Ahsoka a favor, making it seem like “this was practically a training exercise! You totally passed, good job!” She was right to leave. They don’t deserve her.

Though I really have no idea how bad that’s going to mess with Anakin and Obi-Wan, they are both so wrecked.


Emmet Asher-Perrin wants Asaaj and Ahsoka to become a rogue Force-using team who go around helping people (Asaaj grudgingly, of course). You can bug her on Twitter and read more of her work here and elsewhere.

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10 years ago

I’m REALLY glad that they’re including Clone Wars as part of ‘accepted canon.’

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evinfuilt
10 years ago

Sad that another Ewan McGregor character lost another Satine. If only he could have talked to Anakin more about issues of being a Jedi in love we wouldn’t have Vader going postal on all those little kids we got to like.

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Narvi
10 years ago

I feel a bit like there’s some episodes missing where Bariss actually got disillusioned enough with the Jedi to start turning people into bombs with nanites.

I hear there’s a comic… but it should have been in the show.

I guess the doctor in Death Star who had a crush on her decades later never watched the news either. Oh yeah, not canon, oh well.

…I liked Death Star.

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10 years ago

This was the best season by far, and the growth of Ahsoka as a character was a big reason why. You saw her becoming a Jedi who could stand on her own, and make the right decision when asked to rejoin the Jedi. For a kid’s program, this show did a lot to show how what we thought was a ‘black and white’ or ‘good versus evil’ universe was really shades of grey, and that the Jedi Council was far from perfect.
I enjoyed the rebellion on Onderon, a planet that played a major role in the ancient Jedi history that was presented in the old Tales of the Jedi comic books.
The droid spy mission shows were a lot of fun.
Seeing Obi Wan deal with the Deathwatch conspiracy was good, and seeing him react to the woman he loved dying gave you an idea that there was more to him than warrior monk.
And the last arc with Ahsoka’s trial was among the best shows in the series, and the best stuff the Star Wars universe has given us. Lots of action and adventure, but with a lot of depth as well.
Now I have to hunt down this Netflix Series 6 that has become available.
And I very much look forward to the new Rebels series, which shares much of the same creative team as Clone Wars–the glimpses we have seen so far hint that even better stories are yet to come!
(And I, for one, would love to see Ahsoka turn up in that series.)

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10 years ago

I read Death Star when it first came out, will have to go back and give it a reread, I think. Speaking of Obi-Wan being more than just a warrior monk, Kenobi was really good, too (picks up right after Ep 3, after he’s dropped off baby Luke).

I haven’t been doing a lot of reading up on ‘Rebels’ yet (so I don’t know where it falls out, timeline-wise), but I’d love to see some of the surviving characters from CW pop up in it, even just for a couple of minutes.

Definitely a kid’s show with some very grown up shades of gray to it. And, I have to be honest, I had a moment of sheer Fridge Horror when I realized that all these awesome padawans that were being introduced were probably still going to be in the Jedi temple during Ep 3.

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Colin R
10 years ago

The droids arc kind of sticks out in this season–they dragged that out wayyy too long. One or two episodes would have been fine.

Anthony Pero
10 years ago

Rebels takes place about 10 years pre-A New Hope. There will be a book out in August that takes palce immediately before the show begins, and introduces the two adult characters–a Jedi in hiding, and a Mandalorian female.

I have a suspiscion that given the plot and time frame–a smuggler jedi and his crew looking out for themselves at the very beginnings of the rebel alliance–that they bastardized the concepts and scripts from the Live Action TV show hat McCallum promised us was right around the corner for years. They had ten scripts done for that show.

I imagine we will never get it now, since its morphed into Rebels.

Anthony Pero
10 years ago

However, considering the timeline, its ALSO possible that we will get a Han and Chewie cameo at some point during the first season.

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10 years ago

They could introduce us to 10 year old Luke Skywalker. That would be the best thing since our introduction to 10 year old Anakin Skywalker… ;-)

Anthony Pero
10 years ago

I’m sure some people would like it. It might be cool for the crew to make a stop on Tatooine at some point, and Obiwan makes an appearance. I hope not Luke though… he’s supposed to be in a backwater of the backwater. It might be stretching coincidence a bit much.

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10 years ago

I almost wish they’d do something similar to Agents of SHIELD, where it ties into the movies, but too much of a time gap to cover to make that very realistic, probably.

I’ll definitely have to keep an eye out in August and pick the book tie-in up.

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Josh Luz
10 years ago

He talks like a goat because he’s a Gotal. Seriously.

Anthony Pero
10 years ago

@11:

Not sure of that… you could crtainly tie it in… after all, Agent Carter will be 50 years before whats going on, and I’m SURE they’ll tie that in to whats going on in the MCU.

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10 years ago

anthonypero – would be awesome to see it. And after watching Guardians of the Galaxy, I’m not worried about Episode 7 quite so much any more. If that’s a sign of how Disney is going to be handling Star Wars, I’m all in.

Anthony Pero
10 years ago

Well… its still Lucasfilm.

Kathleen Kennedy is a longtime Lucas associate, and the rest of the creative team is the same that has been at Lucasfilm… the difference is a) new writers b) new director (who many do not like, unfortunately). But most of the rest of everybody has been at Lucasfilm for a while, Disney aquired Lucasfilm, and George’s script treatments for 7-9. They didn’t disband Lucasfilm. So, long story short. The quality of the MCU is in no way indicative of the potential quality of Star Wars. There are exactly zero people who will be involved in both franchises (other than maybe a few actors). They are basically two separate companies owned by a larger company. Unfortunately.

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10 years ago

See what you did? You got your reality in my dreamscape and now I’m sad.

Anthony Pero
10 years ago

My apologies. To be clear, I’m still hopeful they will be awesome. Ive personally liked just about everything Abrams has done. He’s created and written scripts for three of my favorit shows. They all sucked after he moved on to other projects though. Except Fringe. That was awesome all the way through.

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10 years ago

Agreed. And worst case, I’ll just go back and watch Guardians again LOL

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8 years ago

I think I am actually going to have to do this in chunks (sorry, I’m going to spam your comments threads) because I have SO many thoughts, especially about the last few episodes. Star Wars is just one of those things I am really invested in, more than any other fandom, so I think my opinions/reactions and previous expectations/thoughts about what should had happened are more extreme. There are some things I really enjoyed about this season, and some things I honestly hated.  I’m definitely still on the fence about Ahsoka and if I think she is a good addition to the canon or not. I love Ashley Eckstein, I love the idea of Ahsoka and more female characters, but I definitely found that consistently, my favorite episodes where the ones that did not feature Ahsoka.  I think in general I’m just more interested in the dynamics of the clones, the Jedi, the Force, the relationship between Anakin and Obi-wan, between Anakin and Padme, etc.  I understand wanting to add a new character but I think the show’s creators sometimes just loved her too much and focused on her too much and made her way too powerful.  But – I know I’m in the vast minority of this show’s fans, so that’s just how it is.  I want to love her but it’s a toss up in a given episode if I’ll find her completely annoying or not.  When I watch Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith I still find it hard to fit Ahsoka into that – wheras this show does a good job developing Anakin, his strained relationship with the Jedi, his growing relationship with Palpatine, his own conflicts regarding his emotions/attachments/passions and the darkness that led to, the general strained relationship with the Jedi/Republic (and explaining why public opinion could start to shift), and the general fall of the Jedi (partially due to Palpatine’s manipulation and orchestrating of their corruption and especially the moral implications surrounding the use of the clones). They did an okay job with Obi-Wan and Anakin’s relationship too (so you really can get a feel for that camraderie at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith).  What I don’t think this show has done a good enough job of (partially because of having to focus so much on Ahsoka) is developing Anakin and Padme’s relationship.

As a work of its own, Ahsoka’s existance doesn’t really need to be justified – she is a character in her own right, with her own journey.  Perhaps were this a standalone work I’d have a more favorable opinion of her.  But since this IS a work that is meant to bridge two existing movies, I do think it needs to be justified, and while certainly some of her and Anakin’s interactions with her help shed light on his development in between the two movies, especially in his proctiveness of her, and his maverick-ness/independence rubbing off on her, to the point where it causes her own strained relationship with the Jedi…I’m not sure yet if I think that is justified. I always felt like she was kind of jammed/inserted in by the show writers as their pet character.  Although actually, one thing that I found very interesting is how Anakin often finds himself in the position of having to give her advice that deals with his own struggles with his emotions, or the balance between doing what he feels is right and obedience.  That’s actually kind of interesting, and in a way it’s so sad that he is the source of inspiration of Ahsoka to stand up for the right thing, but that he himself actually goes the wrong path.  He an Ahsoka are in some ways very similar, so it’s interesting to look at why their paths diverged.  They are two sides of the same coin, and both end up leaving the Jedi, but obviously go down very different paths.  Ahsoka’s response to being disillusioned with the Jedi is just to leave (and presumably continuing fighting for right), and Anakin’s is…to slaughter everybody and usher in an era of darkness (although obviously there were way more dark forces coming to bear on him and manipulating him, and his own issues with attachment/possession he couldn’t get past).  Actually, in writing this I am attempting to come up with reasons to appreciate Ahsoka’s role in the story…perhaps with more time, distance and analysis I will be able to appreciate her contribution to the canon more :)

(As an aside, I don’t think this is just becuase ‘she’s a girl’ because I love some of the other new female characters in this show, and I also have the same reaction and feelings towards Ahsoka as I do to Starkiller in Force Unleashed – a too-badass/important character wedged into existing timelines/continuities)

Random nitpick – I also am slightly irritated by the fact that Anakin and Obi-Wan encounter/fight Count Dooku so many times since in Revenge of the Sith the impression is that this is their first time fighting him since AOTC (“this time we will do it together”) but that’s definitely a nitpick.

Regarding the first few arcs:

Revival – I kind of missed Hondo too, haha.  It’s always extra sad when I see a prequel Jedi (Adi) bite it.  Definitely some interesting stuff going on with Obi-Wan’s feelings towards Maul.

Onederon arc – this was kind of cool because I already knew who Saw was from Rogue One, and that he came from this Clone Wars arc. So it was neat to see him pre-breathing mask and all that.  Anyway – does anybody else find it vaguely disturbing that the Republic is training up armed rebels on supposedly non-affiliated planets?  I mean – I know story wise, they’re the good guys, we are rooting for them, etc, but there are definitely some dark real world implications here.  Even in-universe, the Republic isn’t exactly completely correct (I think the Separatists probably have valid points although of course they’re all being used by an evil party).  And it raises the ugly question (which in some ways they gloss over) about at what point are ‘terrorist’ type methods justified? Don’t get me wrong – I’m glad they showed that the Onederon rebels care enough about the actual people to actually actively try to minimize the civilian casualties because I’m sometimes kind of over the gritty ambiguous heroes.  But it definitely does make you wonder how the average Onederon citizen would feel about this.  Are there some that might favor the Separatists?  The show seems to imply they are pretty unified in not accepting the new ruler.  In some ways i twas almost too easy – I was waiting for the Seperatists or the fake king to start ordering the rounding up/execution of civilians in ‘retaliation’ so as to spark resentment amongst them for bringing their wrath against them.

I’m not that into the Lux/Ahsoka thing really (I agree – he comes off as dead weight sometimes) but it’s kinda worth it for Anakin having to give relationship advice.

I agree, Steela was great – I already knew she was going to die from Saw’s backstory, but man, that was painful :(

Baby Jedi arc – aww, I loved this!  Except that the entire time I was watching it, I was like, OMG, Anakin is going to slaughter all of them, isn’t he? :(  I’m excited they brought Ilum back.  I loved the little nerd Nautolan Jedi :)  But I thought the lightsaber cave ‘facing your own dark demons’ thing was pretty cool.  In some ways a little bit like the Dagobah cave but not quite as dark.  The lightsaber droid TOTALLY reminded me of Ollivander. Loved it. :)

Lightsaber black market – wonder if Ahsoka ever gets another, hm.  Does she buy one from Hondo? Haha.

That said – Hondo pretty much lost any goodwill. I can appreciate one of those love/hate antagonist relationships but once you start kidnapping children and wanting to sell women into some kind of nasty trafficking thing, I’m kind of done. You’re dead to me, Hondo.  The circus thing was honestly kind of hysterical.  And then, a few episodes later – stop trying to make me like you again, Hondo!

The secret mission droid arc – okay, it’s all downhill from here, in my opinion. I was loving this season, and then we got this. In fact, I think my hatred of this arc influenced how I felt about the rest of the season after it. I’ve found that in general I have not really enjoyed the droid-centric episodes – they are a little too slapsticky for me and it’s not really my brand of humor. This was actually painful for me to watch and I ended up zoning out for the last half of the episode.  Crazy pit droid kind of represents everyhting I hate about these kind of stories.  But honestly I don’t know if I hate him or Gascon more.  Both of them were just such incredibly annoying and grating characters to me.  AND THEN THERE WAS ACTUALLY MORE THAN ONE EPISODE.  I can’t believe how long that arc ran.  Also, as a short person, I was definitely over the ‘I’m tiny and disrespected so I’m going to act like a huge blowhard to make up for it’ gag that they kept going for with Gascon.  It might have been tolerable if it was just one or two episodes – I liked the other droids, there were some other interesting things going on with the evolution of Gascon’s attitude towards droids, but other wise, ughhhh. Also, the plot itself was dumb.  They stole an encryption chip, so wouldn’t the Separatists immediately change their encryption??? What is the actual gain???

The only interesting thing was the Missing in Action episode with the abanonded clone.  God, that was so sad – in some ways, I wish he hadn’t gotten his memories back because all that meant was that he was all gung ho about fulfilling his duty/finding meaning in dying for a government that finds him totally disposable. :(. I mean – obviously the diner owner was a jerk and I’m glad he wasn’t stuck there either, but it was really kind of a tragic ending to me.

We were going along with this season at a pretty good clip, but it took us a few weeks to get through these episodes. And then we heard a rumor CW was going to be pulled from Netflix in March (which didn’t actually seem to happen) so then we had to really binge the rest of 5 and 6, heh.

I’m gonna stop here for now – I have thoughts on the Death Watch/Satine arc (which was also pretty good, fridging aside) an dthe terrorist/Ahsoka gets kicked out arc (really disliked it and basically involved me and my husband yelling angry things at the TV). 

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8 years ago

Darth Maul/Death Watch arc – I had the same thought about everybody basically knowing the Rule of Two.  Seems like the Sith aren’t doing so great when it comes to secrecy.  Although maybe in the EU there actually is some reason for them to know that (since iirc the Mandalore fought against the Jedi but I can’t remember anymore when in the timeline that was, or if they worked with the Sith, etc).

BLACK SUN!!!!!!  And yeah, I was kind of thinking, ‘where is Xizor…wait, this is before his time…woah, did he just clear the way for his ascendance?’

I agree with you too about the idea of Death Watch and the tensions/conflicts that would arise in a warrior culture turning pacifistic is an interesting one.  And that Vizsla is a bit dense to think he can just discard Maul when he is done with him. That said, what is happening to all of the mooks that get arrested, and what not?  What do the other crime families actually get out of this (aside from not being slaughtered by Maul). And that Satine isn’t quite on her game in this episode.

Potentially unpopular opinion: I don’t actually have a ton of respect for Satine’s sister (I called that a mile away).  Presumably, she and Satine parted ways because of their differing opinions on the type of culture Mandalore should be.  So, she sides with Viszla (and maybe had a bit of a crush on him) and he is killed by Maul – but under the rules of their own culture. Even Viszla seemed to respect that.  So her sudden heel/face turn is basically based on her own personal feelings (which I know is a common trope), or worse, the idea that an outsider can’t possibly be a part of Mandalore culture (which smacks of all sorts of xenophobia).  Obviously I’m not saying Maul is this great guy who SHOULD be in charge (and actually I think warrior based cultures in general are kinda icky), but obviously she had no qualms abut making use of his brutality when it suited her. So…while, sure, I guess Obi-Wan is not going to turn away her help, she does not earn any brownie points with me when it comes to her motivations or integrity.  It’s not like she had some kind of realization about the path she was on, etc.

I had a feeling Satine’s death was coming but man, that did almost make me shed a few tears.  Poor Obi-Wan.  He has his own tragic backstory – and I can respect his decision to stay with the Jedi Order and commit to that path instead of a person he was in love with, so I don’t think in and of itself that is a horrible thing (plus, I get the impression Satine made the same decision for her own reasons) – but it’s interesting how differently he deals wih than to Anakin. It is SUCH a wasted opportunity that Anakin and Obi-Wan couldn’t actually discuss this, since Obi-Wan actually WOULD be able to empathize with the conflict and how to deal with the loss of somebody you love without it turning you dark.  Not sure Obi-Wan would approve of a secret marriage, per se…but I do think he might turn a blind eye to it (he probably knows something hinky is going on, anyway).

I hate fridging though – both on a story level, but man, I hate characters (and I know this is a real world thing so I can’t say it’s not realistic) who use other people as pawns simply to hurt somebody else.  In a way, I’m glad Obi-Wan didn’t take the bait.  But I AM glad he basically ‘did his own bidding’ which as you point out is an awesome line.  I agree with you wholeheartedly about Ki-Adi-Mundi, heh.

Hahahahaha, I love your observation that the ship/armor ploy was his idea!  Of course, Obi-Wan DID also teach Boba Fett to watch for ships hiding on floating objects, so it’s a draw!

Okay, I did kind of get chills when Palpatine left Coruscant to deal with Maul himself.  My husband and I, who admittedly are ambivalent about the show, looked at each other and were just like, ‘this is awesome’…but now I wonder what on earth his other uses for him are.  Does he show up in Rebels, I wonder?  (Have to admit, still not totally convinced it’s worth the fan serviceyness of bringing him back for cool factor but…okay, rolling with it).

And…actually it’s late and I’m tired so I guess my thoughts on the very last arc will have to wait.

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8 years ago

Clearly I have so many thoughts about Star Wars so that is obviously a good thing about the series.  There really is a lot to dig into here.  I wouldn’t have this much to say if I weren’t invested in the show in some way.

I hope I’m not ruffling too many feathers because I am pretty sure I’m in the minority opinion when it comes to Ahsoka. That’s cool; a lot of people love this show and also a whole new generation of fans that are really into it.  Ahsoka especially has meant a lot to other female fans, and I appreciate that as well (honestly, this is a cause close to my heart as well so I almost feel kind of guilty that I don’t love Ahsoka). They must be seeing something I’m not – and that’s fine.  I guess it’s not just me, since almost every episode my husband was also yelling at the TV about how stupid peoples’ decisions were.  But my reaction to Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order was basically, “Welp, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.”

When Emily wrote her review of Rogue One, it was titled something like ‘Rogue One Really Wants You To Like It, and That’s a Problem’. I really enjoyed Rogue One, but that’s actually kind of how I feel about Ahsoka – I feel like the creators just reaaaaallly want us to love her and constantly show us how badass and cool and right she always is and it gets on my nerves.  FWIW, I also instantly loved Rey, even though I know there was a lot of similar criticisms levied against her but I didn’t feel like I got that same vibe.  So…*shrugs*.

The last arc – the idea of people being disillusioned with the Jedi, their ethical responsibility in terms of the use of the clones, the war, the way Palpatine is manipulating both sides to create a no-win moral situation that destroys the Jedi from within, and the fact that Ahsoka, as she grows in her own strong sense of self, may decide to divorce herself from it, has the ability in some alternate universe to be an extremely compelling and interesting plot. I would be totally on board with that premise and support Ahsoka in that decision.

Instead, I feel like nobody’s character motivations really made sense. First of all, the idea that a terrorist who is against the Jedi and their involvement in violence choosing to express that by…a bomb that kills civilians…is a bit muddled.  But that’s not too far off from how extremists can operate in real life so I can go with that; that’s the least of my concerns.  For awhile I was also wondering if the wife/husband had something shady going on – abusive husband plot, perhaps.  (do they ever clarify if the husband actually was in on it at all, or they were all just being Force manipulated into it).  Actually, that brings up one of the nitpicky complaints I have which is, why would Letta have outed herself to the Jedi in the first place?  They didn’t have any other leads (maybe after doing some research they would have found her), and it’s not like Letta was ACTUALLY wondering where her husband was.  So all she did was to bring suspicion onto herself – unless the idea was that she was trying to reach out so she could out the plot, but she doesn’t really do that until after she’s in prison.

I was first predicting that Ahsoka perhaps was going to end up disillusioned because she just couldn’t accept that a Jedi could be behind it, which to me wasn’t satisfying (I know this is a reaction that people have in real life to all sorts of organizations, but it kinda bugs me there too), since you have to think that they were taught about things like Sith, the Lost 20, and the fact that yes, sometimes people fall short of ideals. 

Then we get the Fugitive plot and it just seemed way too fast – like everybody was just reacting too quickly, jumping to conclusions, acting rashly (both the accusers and the accused) and it seemed like a huge jump for Ahsoka to suddenly cut and run. The whole epsiode she is constantly doing things that she must know make her look inherently untrustworthy and guilty. And this is actually also a huge plot peeve of mine. I get really inordinately frustrated/anxious by plots involving little erorrs of communication, somebody not knowing some crucial piece of data, crazy circumstances that make something look like something it’s not, but that <I>any reasonable person</I> would still conclude it’s the other thing. I always hate how in those plots we’re supposed to think the accusers are wrong/stupid/bad for opposing the protagonist, even though in their minds, there is no reason to think of her as a protagonist (THEY don’t know they’re in a TV show, heh).  And of course she’s just so awesome that literally nobody – Jedi, whole clone platoons, etc, can take her down. The same clones, btw, that murder EVERY OTHER JEDI in Order 66. 

The best part was Assaj Ventress because I just pretty much love all of her teamups and she is such an interesting, conflicted character.  I was really hoping for more of that. (Emily your idea of a spinoff show in the signoff is just brilliant, I would totally watch that!)

I find that the user of power is inconsistent. This is something that has rubbed me the wrong way for a lot of the show, not just these episodes. First none of the highly trained clones we know are capable of killing other Jedi can take down Ahsoka.  Then Assaj Ventress gets her with almost no fight (although Assaj is awesome and a fully trained adult, so I’ll grant her that).  But then Barriss takes her down, AND gets the best of Assaj? And also somehow almost defeats Anakin?  It just seemed like people were always as powerful as the plot demanded.

Which brings me to my other question which is – aren’t these Jedi??? Don’t they have people who can READ MINDS?  Can’t they do some kind of interrogation, or mind sensing, or something?  So, I used to write a lot of fan fic and at least for me, I tried to always think about this – both in the sense of Jedi who were particulary skilled in this area, and Jedi who were skilled in withstanding it, projecting a false persona, etc. I get that some Jedi (or other less than ethical Force users) are going to be able to hide their true intentions better than others, and so it’s never going to be fool proof, but you’d think they’d have some super awesomely strong empaths who could help assist in things like this and be like, “yup, Ahoska is most likely telling the truth”.  Or even do things like undergo mutual hypnosis and experience what the other person experienced.   I just feel like the non-martial Jedi powers got a short shrift in this show and those powers would greatly influence the plot.  I mean, I don’t know, maybe they would have actually have done this if it weren’t for Ashoka just running off.

And oh, we have to talk about my girl Barriss.  Would you believe that my first thought about where this arc was going was that Barriss had a secret romance with the boy from her cohort that got killed and that’s why she was being so cagey about all of it?  I always had a huge soft spot for Barriss for two main reasons – I love purple, and I also had a thing about Jedi Healers, and in the EU she’s a Healer.  I even dressed up as Barriss for the RotS premiere, and a Celebration we went to, and met other people dressed as Barriss and got my picture taken with the actress so YEAH THANKS FOR THAT CLONE WARS.  But even aside from my personal irritation at them messing with a perfectly good side character, I couldn’t tell what they were going for. I had a sinking feeling that it was her as soon as somebody attacked Ventress.  When she’s fighting Anakin she talks about how the red lightsabers suit her. So are we implying she went to the dark side? But then her motives are apparently to make some statement about how the Jedi have all GONE to the Dark Side by being a part of the war and embracing violence and how horrible that is.  So her response is to…turn to the Dark Side and use violence?  It’s actually a really interesting concept (various Jedi becoming disillusioned, leaving – plus kind of gives a possible out for Order 66 and she could go rogue) but I think here they went more for shock value.  Barriss could have ended up a pretty interesting character but I think they short changed her here.

As for Ahsoka’s decision to leave, I don’t really sympathize. First of all, maybe I am just coming at it from a different perspective, but I see nothing wrong with the Jedi handing her over to a civil court. Maybe there’s something I’m not understanding about how the Jedi actually fit into the political structure/court system, or the kinds of penalties they can mete out on their own.  But, for example, who would think it was okay if a Catholic priest (just using that example because it’s what I know) was accused of a crime and was tried by an ecclesiastical court?  I’m Catholic, and I think that’s utterly insane.  Of course they should be tried by CIVIL courts. So I honestly don’t see why the Jedi are any different if one of their own (supposedly) goes rogue and non Jedi get caught in the fray.  It’s a little weird that the Jedi wouldn’t have any kind of external accountability.  Now, of course we know Tarkin has his own ulterior motives (hm, how suspicious that the sound was missing from the security recording of her and Letta. I guess Barriss also did that?) so in that sense we are supposed to root for the Jedi, but on principal – no, I don’t think it’s wrong at all for Ahsoka to stand a civil trial, and for her to leave the Jedi because of THAT just seems petulant and put-upon for not getting away with the same kind of crap she’s gotten away with for the past 5 seasons, and NOT an actual stance of integrity.  I can see being upset they didn’t all believe her, and yes, they should have pushed back at expelling her before it was even determined she was guilty, but they also don’t have the advantage the audience does of knowing what actually happened. There also are definitely in between a rock and a hard place (due to Palpy’s maneuvering and their own shortcomings in foresight).  Ahsoka was not exactly covering herself in glory.  I think there actually are totally legitamate reasons Ahsoka might decide to leave the Order but…the way it all played out just didn’t resonate with me.  Especially when it was clear that Anakin, Obi-Wan and Plo Koon WERE on her side but just got overruled.

However, I did want to slap Mace Windu when he was like, “Hah, yeah, this was just your trial, JUST KIDDING!” I was half expecting Barriss to come out and reveal Ahsoka had just been punked.  Mace Windu is definitely in the running for the Order’s Biggest Asshole, and he only loses because Pong Krell exists. (And yes, I did feel that the scene was harmed by none of the Jedi ladies being part of that decision.) But on that note, sometimes I wonder if this arc went a little too far in showing the flawed nature of the Jedi.  Obviously they are not perfect, and Palpatine is basically able to run circles around them.  And I also like to explore what happens when people put certain groups (or themselves, in that group) on a pedestal.  But they are almost so corrupt/incompetent or just flat out unable to understand/empathize with people that it almost makes them villains.  When Obi-Wan sadly reminicses about the Jedi in A New Hope, you’re supposed to feel somewhat sad and wistful, but this kind of takes away from that.  But maybe that’s the point :)

Regarding Anakin and Ahsoka’s relationship – in some ways they have more chemistry than he and Padme (not necessarily romantic chemistry), which might just mean we didn’t get to see enough of Anakin and Padme and actually developing that relationship.  And it was always interesting/sad to see Anakin give her the same kind of advice about her emotions, her beliefs, etc that he couldn’t take himself.

Okay, that’s enough. Onto season 6 (spoiler alert: loved it)

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4 years ago

I’m going to talk about the Wrong Jedi arc first because it’s my favourite. I love the depth and realism. Here are my thoughts:

1. The Jedi-hate after the arc is utterly ridiculous and unfounded. Are you sure you guys understood the episodes??? Do you guys remember how Tarkin and the Senate literally forced the Jedi to expel Ahsoka? Do you remember how the evidence was overwhemingly against Ahsoka. Even then, The Council trusted Ahsoka and their instincts, and Tarkin (on behalf of Palpatine, I bet) had to force the Jedi to give her up. I don’t mind the Jedi’s decision to expel her. There’s nothing wrong with have a civil court judgement. Ahsoka’s my favourite character, and she was wronged, but I can’t blame the Jedi. I could see how visibly upset all the Jedi were. Mace Windu literally said with a heavy sigh, “I’m afraid we have little choice.” Stop with all the Jedi Council-hate. It’s kinda ridiculous.

2. Barriss’s speech made no sense. So, because the Jedi are fighting in a war to minimize civilian and clone casualties and to end the war quicker, they’re evil??? The Jedi did their duty to the people by fighting. Being peacekeepers doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t fight in wars. Plus, the Jedi really boosted the morale of the clones and they encouraged the clones’ individuality and creativity. They treated the clones as equals while other officers called the clones “flesh-droids”. Barriss then condemns the Jedi for using violence (yeah right, Mace Windu tried to negotiate with droids) but killed a lot of innocents herself in the bombing. And she frames her best friend. Ironic. I feel like she had a lot of potential as a character instead of just another victim fo Palpatine’s propaganda.

3. Oh my gosh, Palpatine is so evil. I bet he was behind Ahsoka’s trial and Barriss’s sudden character change. Like, the whole thing where Tarkin tells the Jedi the Senate would get mad if they didn’t give up Ahsoka? Definitely Palpatine plotting for other ways to discredit the Jedi – especially in Anakin’s eyes. And that whole monologue in front of the Jedi and Senate about how Separatists were always deceiving and Ahoska looked innocent but was probably guilty? How is that legal??? Is the residing judge allowed to state their increidbly biased opinions???

4. I’m not sure Anakin believed in Ahsoka’s innocence. He was asking her a lot of pointed questions and she had to emphasize her innocence so many times. It was more like Anakin didn’t care if she was guilty or not, he just didn’t want her to get hurt.

5. I can’t believe people think this arc justifies Anakin’s losing faith of the Jedi when Tarkin is prosecuting and trying to get Ahsoka executed and Palpatien monologues on how Ahsoka’s probably guilty. Like Anakin works alongside these 2 people for decades after this event. Does he not remember how against Ahsoka both Tarkin and Palpatine were? Like, they’re the ones trying to get her killed, not the Jedi Council. By the Force, Anakin, you’re such an idiot.

6. I didn’t know Senators and Military Officials and Chancellors were skilled in the practicing of law. Padme was so awesome and a kriffing lawyer for Ahsoka even though she’s a Senator. Are all Senators legally required to pass the Bar test or something? And Tarkin, an Admiral, is the prosecutor. Like, does he hate Ahsoka enough that he’s taking time off of his military duties to read up of the law books of the Republic and prosecute Ahsoka??? This guy. 

@21: I gotta disagree with you on Mace Windu. I honestly think he’s a really nice person. He argued for the Zillo Beast’s life, respected Jar Jar Binks, complimented Artoo, petitioned the prison to let Boba Fett off easy even though he killed hundreds to get to Mace, tried to negotiate with droids as I mentioned earlier, and when there was a bomb threat, the first thing he did was evacuate the clones and risk his own life. And that’s not even all of it. But yeah, Pong Krell is the worst type of scum in TCW.

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Nora
4 years ago

I think it’s a running joke inside Lucasfilm to give Obi-Wan close friends/love interests then kill them off in front of Obi-Wan while he can’t do anything but watch. Seriously, he’s suffered so much it’s hilarious (it’s not). Then you realize that this guy was never actually happy until he died. Oh, Star Wars. You’re so funny!