“I’m in a tree with a man who talks to monkeys.”
As the 1990s drew to a close, the Disney Animation department faced a bit of a problem. The mid 1990s prestige films—Pocahontas, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Mulan—had done decently enough at the box office and award ceremonies, if more unevenly with critics, but somehow not quite as spectacularly well as the films that had started the Disney Renaissance—The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and The Lion King. By “spectacularly well” Disney and I both mean “toys and other merchandise sales.” Pocahontas and Mulan were to make inroads on this later, when their protagonists joined the Disney Princess franchise, but that was still a few years off. Disney needed something huge again. Something popular. Something that could fit in with the new Animal Kingdom theme park about to open at Walt Disney World in Florida.
They settled on Tarzan.
For Disney executives, Tarzan offered a number of immediate advantages: the character was a worldwide icon, and his early life was spent with animals who could easily be turned into cute toys. Indeed, Tarzan was so well known that Disney could more or less ignore the book (which, as we’ll see, they did) and instead just focus on that iconic image. Yet, although the iconic image was created more by films and television shows than by the Burroughs books, animators could and did argue that Tarzan had never been properly captured in live action: only animation could fully convey those sorts of movements. Plus, An animated Tarzan could also interact closely with animated gorillas without any fear of distressing the gorillas—or the humans. That made Tarzan stand out from the previous prestige films: Disney could argue that—unlike Hunchback of Notre Dame, which had gone years without really needing an animated treatment—that their Tarzan was needed.
And Tarzan needed to be needed, because however great the toy potential, and however well suited for Animal Kingdom, Tarzan was about to become the most expensive animated film Disney had ever made. Even accounting for inflation, it cost more than either Sleeping Beauty or Pinocchio had in their time—the two films that had come close to closing Disney Animation down altogether.
Disney had more money to play with these days. Still, they remained cautious, sticking with known quantities—such as Phil Collins, hired under the assumption that he would be sure to create a pop hit. That assumption turned out to be correct: “You’ll Be In My Heart,” (which appears twice in the film, sung by Glenn Close and Phil Collins, and then—in the version released as a single—by Phil Collins), landed as the number one song on Billboard’s Adult Contemporary list, and also won an Academy Award. Collins also agreed to record the songs in multiple languages, a Disney first.
To play Tarzan, Disney hired Tony Goldwin, then in his pre-Scandal days. For the now requisite Famous Comedian sidekick role, Disney hired Rosie O’Donnell (and then marginalized her far more than the other Famous Comedian sidekick roles). For the other roles, Disney stuck with their successful “name that voice” actor formula with Glenn Close, Minnie Driver, Brian Blessed and Nigel Hawthorne.
That just left animating Tarzan’s jungle world, and here, Disney tried something new: Deep Canvas, a 3D painting and rendering technique that won its creators an Academy Award for Technical Achievement. Deep Canvas allowed Disney animators to create a computer generated background that looked like a painting. This in turn allowed the camera to move around wildly—allowing Tarzan to do the same. This in turn allowed animator Glen Keane to go—er—wild with Tarzan; inspired by his son, who had recently taken up skateboarding, Keane decided to have Tarzan slide and skate across the trees—when not swinging on ropes. This all led to a gloriously happy ending where, above all, the characters look as if they are having fun, in part because they are moving in physical patterns viewers associate with pure recreation and sport.
It also led to increased animation expense. To pull off the sliding across trees and the other Deep Canvas work, animators had to work unusually closely with the background artists and computer engineers, something made particularly tricky since this film was created by two different groups living in two very different places—Paris and Burbank. At one point, the entire animation team did get together to go look at animals in Kenya for a couple of weeks to make their gorillas look realistic, but otherwise, they needed phones and email. A lot of email.
If the animators did try for some realism with the gorillas (and to a much lesser degree the elephants, which were largely patterned after previous Disney elephants), they completely abandoned it in other bits of the film. And no, I’m not talking about the skating over trees here stuff, implausible though that is, or the moment when the gorillas and the elephant manage to create a nice little pop band from the equipment left by the scientists at their camp, but rather the moment when an elephant—an elephant—manages to swim across several meters of ocean water and then climb up on a ship. Fortunately this is played for comedy, but it almost puts the suspension of disbelief needed for the Tarzan novels to shame.
Not that the film was, as I’ve noted, particularly close to the original Burroughs novels or any of its sequels. As was now firm Disney tradition, several plot elements from the book were completely abandoned: Tarzan’s noble birth and position as the Earl of Greystoke; the scenes where Tarzan laboriously teaches himself to read; everything with the pirate gold (this is probably just as well); and Tarzan’s encounters with native African tribes (this is definitely just as well). Multiple characters were dropped, and others altered—Kerchek, the terrifying killer ape of the book that Tarzan needs to defeat was transformed into Kerchek, concerned if misguided leader ape that Tarzan needs to prove himself to. (Spoiler: it’s a Disney film, so yes, Tarzan succeeds, at an appropriate Sniffly Moment.)
But the biggest change occurs at the end of the film, when, instead of heading off to civilization and Jane, Tarzan instead chooses to stay in the jungle with the gorillas, accepting his new place as the head of a family. Jane, after a bit of hesitation, stays with him, and the film ends on a joyous note, with Tarzan and Jane—now stripped of her formal Victorian dress, wearing what looks like a much more fun short skirt and top—sliding merrily through the trees, followed by her father and the gorillas.
I’m a little uncertain about this. On the one hand, within the context of the story, it’s gratifying: Tarzan spent the first half of the film desperately trying to be a gorilla—so desperately that he endangered his gorilla family and forgot how to walk upright. And, during all of this, he was the underdog—weaker and different than his fellow gorillas, despised by the other young gorillas, who for the most part refuse to play with him. And the bit where Tarzan takes over the gorilla family is more or less from the book, so it’s even faithful to the source material. And Jane’s earlier awe of and delight in gorillas makes her decision to stay with them not just a decision to abandon her entire life for a guy, but to abandon her entire life for gorillas. I can buy that. And, well, it’s pure Disney, in keeping with the other films of the period: an outsider finally finding a place—and a home.
So why does that particular scene make me just a touch uncomfortable?
In part it might be because the gorillas are often mean to him—really mean. Even Tarzan’s best friend in the group, Terk, tries to abandon him more than once, and plays a trick on him that almost gets him—and a number of other gorillas and elephants—injured, if not killed. His mother lies to him. There’s good reason for all of this—Tarzan isn’t a gorilla—and to be fair, apart from Jane and her father, the first humans Tarzan encounters aren’t that much better. They spend their time either making fun of Tarzan, tricking Tarzan, yelling at Tarzan about gorillas, or throwing Tarzan into a shipboard jail, like, way to bring the wild guy back to humanity, guys, thanks, really. I can’t really blame Tarzan for turning his back on humanity after that—
Or maybe I can, partly because I did read the book, where Tarzan saw even worse behavior from various humans, and decided to head to civilization anyway.
But no, what bugs me here isn’t really Tarzan. It’s the gorillas. Because, let’s face it, the entire film is more or less about all of the problems Tarzan brings, mostly unintentionally, granted, to this poor gorilla family—from nearly getting the other gorillas and a couple of elephants injured in an earlier scene, to regularly abandoning them to go spend time with the humans, to later betraying their location to Clayton, leading to a scene where most of the gorillas end up captured and terrified, and one gorilla ends up dead.
What I’m saying here, I guess, is that for all the joy in the film’s last few moments, and the sweet moments earlier, and sappy Phil Collins songs about being in your heart, I can’t help but think that maybe, just maybe, Tarzan and the apes really aren’t good for each other. And although yes, by the end of the film, the gorillas have learned to respect Tarzan, and Tarzan has learned to be an outstanding gorilla, something seems missing here. And that in turn makes me, as said, a touch uncomfortable.
The elephants, though, who are mostly sidelined in all this?
Are great.
Possibly because of the elephants, possibly because of the fun of watching Tarzan zip around the jungle, possibly because of the touching relationship between Tarzan and his adoptive mother, Kala, Tarzan was a financial success despite the film’s high cost. The Disney synergy machine moved into high motion, creating a short lived television show, a couple of sequels now available on DVD and Netflix, the Tarzan Rocks! show at Walt Disney World’s Animal Kingdom (later replaced by a Finding Nemo show), and a short lived Broadway show. Tarzan’s Treehouse took over the Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse at Disneyland, and became an attraction at Hong Kong Disneyland. The usual merchandise—clothing, mugs, toys—followed.
And yet, despite this merchandising effort and the film’s initial box office success, Tarzan, like the other Disney animated films of the late 1990s, slowly began to fade. Perhaps because Tarzan, like Hunchback of Notre Dame, didn’t feature a heroine who could—like Mulan and Pocahontas—be rolled into the Disney Princess line. Perhaps because, for all of his supposed wildness, Tarzan is one of the blandest of the Disney protagonists, who for the most part have been recognized for, well, blandness. Or perhaps because, however innovative its animation, Tarzan was, in the end, merely the latest in a line of 100 or so odd Tarzan films.
No one knew it at the time, but Tarzan marked the end of the so called Disney Renaissance—the films from The Little Mermaid onwards, credited with restoring the reputation and popularity of Disney animated films. It was a period of—Hercules aside—mostly ambitious films, featuring innovative animation, glorious art, serious subjects, and grand literary adaptations, and popular songs that became major hits and Disney staples.
With the exceptions of Lilo and Stitch and The Emperor’s New Groove, the later Disney films, as we’ll see, lost none of that ambition. But—with the exception again of Lilo and Stitch—for a decade and a half, none of them managed the same critical or financial success. Several, indeed, were box office disasters, and once again, Disney’s animation department faced the possibility of a permanent shutdown, especially thanks to the success of a few little films from a company called Pixar.
And on that rather depressing note, time to skip several films again since they are Disney originals not based on textual sources:
Fantasia 2000, the long delayed sequel to the original Fantasia film, was a critical success, but a box office failure. It has some marvelous bits, including a lovely piece set to Igor Stravinsky’s Firebird Suite that I highly recommend you check out if you haven’t already. This is probably the best animation Disney did between Tarzan and The Princess and the Frog, or arguably Tangled. Only one segment, however, “The Steadfast Tin Soldier,” is based on a literary source, so, skipping.
Dinosaur (2000) is not just a Disney original, but for several years, was not part of the official Disney Animated Classics series. Notable mostly for using live action footage as a backdrop to its computer generated animation, it performed well enough to inspired several changes to the dinosaur ride at Animal Kingdom in Walt Disney World. Otherwise, it had little impact on future Disney animation or Disney.
The Emperor’s New Groove (2000) was apparently originally based on the story “The Emperor’s New Clothes.” About the only thing the two stories have in common, however, is that their titles both include the word “Emperor.” Otherwise, this is a Disney original, notable mostly for its focus on comedy and a design that looked far more like the classic Warner Bros shorts than Disney. The film was profitable, but performed below box office expectations, sounding warning bells through the animation department.
Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001). The producers claim this film, Disney’s second attempt at creating a PG animated feature, was “inspired by” Jules Verne. After watching the film, many viewers decided that it was “inspired by” the Indiana Jones films or Stargate: SG-1. Although it has since gained the status of a cult film, it initially performed poorly at the box office, and is often listed as the film that started the post-Renaissance Disney decline, except by those people who list The Emperor’s New Groove or Tarzan as the film that started the post-Renaissance Disney decline.
Lilo & Stitch (2002). If you’ve met me at a con, you may already know my feelings on Stitch: I have a Stitch backpack, a Stitch mug, and a couple of Stitch trading pins, mostly because I find it very comforting to carry around images of a creature of complete destruction who learns to love Elvis. Which is to say, Lilo & Stitch is one of my all time favorite Disney animated films, and it breaks my heart to have to leave it out of this Read-Watch, even if this does mean that Tor.com readers are spared a post mostly consisting of I LOVE STITCH I LOVE STITCH I LOVE STITCH oooh look at the watercolor backgrounds I LOVE STITCH which is to say, nobody is missing much.
Produced, like Mulan, at the Florida animation studio, the comparatively low-budget Lilo & Stitch was the one bright spot for Disney Animation between Tarzan and Tangled, launching a number of direct to video sequels, a television show, and a line of Stitch merchandise. It was bright enough to keep the animation studio from closing down completely, and enough to give them hope that their next boundary breaking film would be enough to regain the leading role in animation from Pixar.
As I’ve said so many times before in these posts, we’ve all been very very wrong sometimes.
Next up: Treasure Island/Treasure Planet.
Mari Ness lives in central Florida.
The music in this movie brings me to tears every time, most notably the opening bit. Disney tells great love stories, if nothing else.
Tarzan is, above all, FUN in its animation. I can see where the enthusiasm came from for a stage production (the musical, as I recall, was super dangerous for performers). But the appeal is huge, especially to adventurous kids who jump off of stuff anyway.
About Lilo and Stitch: it’s a great story. Nani and Lilo are wonderful, and I think I first encountered them at the animation studio tour. Also, we danced with Stitch in Tomorrowland one time.
Also, I thought the Pixar movies were also Disney? But they are original, I guess they wouldn’t count anyway.
OHANA MEANS FAMILY.
@1:
My understanding is that Pixar is/was Disney the way Marvel and Lucasfilm are Disney. They are siblings, competing for dollars and budget from the parent corporation.
Disney Animation was a completely separate studio from Pixar, owned by the same corporation. But because of its success, Pixar was getting larger budgets, and more talented artists and creatives.
That’s it??? You gave The Emperor’s New Groove one lousy paragraph?? That’s arguably the most quotable movie Disney has made, as well as one of the funniest. It’s like I’m talking to a monkey.
Granted, it’s not based on a textual source, but you could have given it the Lilo and Stitch treatment. Treating it like Atlantis is just cruel.
My 6 year old absolutely LOVES Stitch. When we went to Disney World a few years ago, we had to hunt down as many of those cursed Stitch pins as we possibly could. The little guy still has them, and a Stitch pillow, and his Stitch t-shirt, and the Disney Infinity Stitch, and about 5 “different” stuffed Stitch toys. You get the idea.
Kerchak is voiced by Lance Henriksen . The Disney Tarzan always has a soft spot in my heart. It is one of my favorites because it’s fun. I also got a free copy of the DVD for having one of the best Tarzan yells in the bar. It was a radio station give away at the DIDO concert my roommate and I attended. The Phil Collins songs is one of my favorites too. The film does have nothing to do with the books but I enjoy it for the story it tells anyway. Lilo and Stich are Awesome.
I was waiting for the Stitch write up, if for nothing more than to forward it to my daughter.
Oh well.
Hah, I truly appreciate that you provide a little summary of the skipped films. Atlantis is the last Disney film I saw in the theater (although I actually did skip Emperor’s New Groove and didn’t see it until a few years ago when I bought it. In truth, it’s not my thing. I like the grand musicals and romances, etc. Something about the humor just didn’t work for me either; it was maybe a bit too pat/on the nose (such as the lampshading dues ex machina ‘how did they get to the lair’ thing that honestly just frustrated me). It’s a fun movie but the Stargate similarities are obvious. Lilo and Stitch I did see at my university’s movie showings and it was right when we were studying Frankenstein in my Science and Literature class so I wrote some thing comparing them, ha. Also really cute, but not one of my favorites.
I love the Fantasia films and we were able to see Fantasia 2000 in IMAX. It was awesome. Technically the Noah’s Ark/Pomp and Circumstance sequence is literary as well, but I don’t expect it to be covered in the read watch anyway.
Dinosaur to me was a bit of a mashup between Land Before Time, Tarzan and Antz, but I got to see it at a sneak preview and I enjoyed the animation quite a bit.
I do enjoy Tarzan but definitely agree with the assessment that it doesn’t have all of the pizzaz of the previous hits. Possibly because I’m not that super into Phil Collins and to me it was kind of odd to have one person sing all the songs instead of being a proper musical (although I do enjoy Strangers Like Me). But I LOVED Jane. At the time I was a budding scientist in the making, so I loved how passionate she was about the subject and that she got to stay with them forever, haha.
I haven’t actually seen Treasure Planet! There’s a handful of Disney movies from this era that I haven’t seen, and will have to catch up with for the rewatch!
@1 – I believe Pixar is its own studio (or at least they were. Disney might own them now. But in the same way they own Marvel and Lucasfilm; Pixar movies are their own thing and not included in Disney Animated Canon lists).
Atlantis was … ok. Not amazing, but at least entertaining. A lot of it really felt like Disney doing Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.
Lilo and Stitch was surprisingly good fun when I finally saw it a year or so ago. I can definitely understand the merchandise overload at the time.
The Emperors New Groove is fantastic …. “Why do we even have that lever!?”. For a Disney original it is far better than I expected, and has a real heart.
@1 Disney bought Pixar in 2006. Prior to that they were totally separate production houses, though Disney acted as a producer, providing funding and distribution/marketing.
Ok, I haven’t seen the film, but that vine-swinging pic . . .Seems like they’d be holding on to the same vine and helping each other hold on–not him holding onto the vine and carting her around. My folks are still holding on to the same vine after sixty-five years, one set of grandparents had fifty-nine years of anniversaries, and the other set nearly forty-six . . . .
The single best part of Tarzan? The fact that an aging, bald guy managed to keep the Backstreet Boys (I want it that way) away from the #1 hit song for week after week after week after week. As a (then) teenage boy, this made me insanely happy. (They went back and forth on a few days, but Collins always beat them back down on the week by weeks.)
As I remember it, Collins originally went to Disney asking to do some voice acting, and Disney turned around and asked him to do the music to the whole thing instead.
Also, it’s the first time I can remember where a Disney animated film didn’t have characters singing songs within the movie for plot purposes (other than the mother’s short lullaby, which is very in character, and trashing the camp, but that didn’t have plot movement involved). Instead, it was a voice outside the characters singing the development.
Yeah, Atlantis was … OK. And had great Mike Mignola design work. (And I’d argue that it feels like Stargate primarily because both Atlantis and Stargate were drawing on some of the same influences, most notably H. Rider Haggard’s “lost race” novels from the late 19th Century (which were also a major influence on Burroughs’ Tarzan, especially later in the series); Atlantis added more than a smidgen of Jules Verne into the mix.)
Nooooooo! Skipping the Emperor’s New Groove? Sadface. Pull the lever, Kronk!
Are you sure it’s not based on some play or something?
@@.-@ It’s not that Emperor got less space than it deserves but the Lilo got more that it desserved due to the obvious bias displayed by the author.
Also, Pixar was a separate entity until Disney bought it in 2006. I believe that Disney and Pixar had a distribution agreement prior to 2006 that basically said that Disney had the right to have first dibs on 10 or so Pixar movies. Then at the end of that agreement, Disney just bought em.
I am bummed about there not being a posting about Atlantis: The Lost Empire (even though it is not super-literary). It is probably one of my top 10 favorite movies, though it doesn’t really fit the standard Disney mould. It’s a fun hard-science fiction romp through the early 20th century with a diverse group of characters.
I also love Lilo and Stitch (more zany sc-fi) and the Emperor’s New Groove.
Two quick clarifications!
1. Apart from the fact that all of the Pixar films are originals, yes, Pixar and Disney were separate companies until 2006, although Pixar helped develop the CAPS system that Disney used in many of the Disney Renaissance films, and Pixar’s chief creative officer, John Lasseter briefly worked as a Disney animator. Pixar actually started out as a Lucasfilm subsidiary before becoming more of a Steve Jobs project. In one of those twists that can only happen with mega media conglomerates, Disney’s purchase of Pixar helped lead to their purchase of Lucasfilm.
We’ll be discussing the Pixar/Disney merger when we cover Meet the Robinsons (which does have a textual source) and The Princess and the Frog.
2. I wasn’t trying to be cruel towards any of you or The Emperor’s New Groove, which yes, is one of the more hilarious Disney animated films, with two particularly great moments: the restaurant bit, and “Why do we even have that lever!” Plus, of course, Eartha Kitt.
But in terms of Disney animated history, not only is The Emperor’s New Groove a minor film, but it also had very little impact one way or the other on the studio, other than raising some alarm bells when its box office totals were compared to the 1990s Disney animated films and the Pixar films. It simply didn’t do well enough or badly enough to force the studio to change directions, although Disney has yet to make another “Warner Bros” style film.
I will, however, cop to loving Lilo & Stitch just a bit more. Come on, guys! DESTRUCTIVE ALIEN. PLAYING ELVIS. Versus David Spade as a llama. No contest.
I don’t know that we can really objectively debate how much space a given movie ‘deserves’, but Lilo and Stitch also serves as the concluding/transitional paragraph that sets the context for the next set of posts.
@10 – it’s been a while since I saw that, but I think that shot is from the end sequence where both of them are swinging around across vines and that’s at the moment where he catches her temporarily, but then releases her again.
Tarzan is definitely one of my favorite films from that late-90s Disney era. The animation, the music, everything. It should be noted that this is one of the few Disney films where the protagonist’s mother actually survives to the end (yeah, I know Tarzan’s actual mother dies right at the beginning, but not when Tarzan is old enough to have it affect him, and I’d consider Kala to be just as much of a mother to him). It also didn’t hurt that, as a young guy just realizing he was gay, this was the first Disney film where I was like “damn, the lead guy is HOT!”
As for the skipped films, Fantasia 2000 is brilliant, Dinosaur is kind of “meh” (I saw it, bought the 2-disc special edition DVD that they were doing with that grouping of films (Tarzan, Dinosaur, Emperor’s New Groove, and Atlantis), and haven’t watched it since), Emperor’s New Groove is Looney Toons by way of Disney and it is HILARIOUS (seriously, I need to go as Yzma for Halloween one of these years), and Atlantis is probably my favorite of the skipped films. Amazing animation (Mignola!), great voice work, and a story that’s Indiana Jones meets Jules Verne with a dash of H.P. Lovecraft thrown in (ancient civilization, giant underwater beasties, c’mon, it’s totally Lovecraft, and that plus the Verne angle I would argue make it a candidate for one of these columns!).
Unfortunately I haven’t seen Treasure Planet…….or…….Lilo and Stitch……
Maybe after this read watch ends you can circle back around and review the Disney originals or Pixar movies? In addition to loving the movies you skipped over this week, (in college we had a Beans, Bacon, Wiskey, and Lard party where we watched Atlantis and ate themed food), I also really enjoy your insights into the movies.
@@.-@. Very much agreed. New Groove is my favorite of the Disney films of the 2000’s. Funny, and fun, not to mention furthering the post Sinefeld career of Patrick Warburton and Eartha Kitt’s snarky performance. Far above the tiresome Lilo & Stitch IMHO.
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I think you identified why I love the music in this one. With the exception of the lullaby and Trashin’ the Camp, the songs are used to frame the story. Phil Collins is a narrator of sorts.
@9 and @14 I’d only dispute the who bought whom. I mean, yes, TECHNICALLY, Disney bought Pixar, but look who got put in charge. Look who’s gotten placed in major creative and executive positions. Disney may have bought Pixar, but I’d argue Pixar took over Disney.
Add mine to the sad llama faces (LLAMA FACE!) regarding skipping The Emperor’s New Groove. I understand why, based on the rules of the read-watch, but it’s one of my favorite movies. Period. I think that’s partially due to the fact that my whole family found it together, pretty randomly, a few years after it came out.
We were instantly drawn to its humor and insane quotability. I work in quotes as often as I can (my mood can be shifted to “friendly” if you quote it to me), and I’d put it under the “cult classics” label: people who love it really love it.
I get that it’s not everyone’s thing, but it reminds me in style of humor of the old Bugs Bunny cartoons, which I also love. My Mom claims she loves this movie because it has a grammar joke.
I actually share both your pleasure and your discomfort with the end of Tarzan. And honestly. . .I think that the problems could actually have been resolved by Disney just having the guts to take out TWO WORDS and accept some bittersweetness and ambiguity to the ending.
Your comments on how Tarzan and the gorillas aren’t, in the end, completely good for each other are spot-on, and the difficulty is that the film mostly accepts this, to a surprising extent (think about the parallel shots of Kala trying to comfort Tarzan with the “similarity” of their hands compared to the shot of Tarzan touching Jane’s hand, or Tarzan’s intense intellectual starvation depicted in the visuals of “Strangers Like Me”). And Kerchak is, to a large degree, a bigoted jerk whose cruelty to Tarzan is disproportionate to the degree of danger Tarzan represents.
So imagine an alternate ending, in which Kerchak does say to Tarzan “You came back”, but Tarzan can’t bring himself to say “I came home”. That line just messes up all the tension and ambiguity the whole rest of the film was building. And in this alternate version, you don’t have Tarzan straightforwardly finding a home (though I do think that Jane does–I agree that, as a female scholar obesssed with gorillas and not all that interested in Victorian propriety, she’s clearly much happier in Africa than London). You have Tarzan working himself up, painfully, to the decision that he loves Kala but that he fits better into his biological parents’ world, but then being confronted with a deathbed request from Kerchak to take over the role of group alpha male that he feels morally obliged to honor, somewhat at odds with his personal feelings.
And since this is such a visual movie, none of that complex ending would have to be info-dumped in more dialogue. Just remove two words of dialogue instead! Not sure you even have to change Keane’s character animation for the scene except to not have any lip movement–his Tarzan doesn’t quite match the words “I came home” to my eye.
Before this read-watch, I never wondered how Disney (or anyone else) chose what films to make, or about the politics and mechanics involved. Thank you for all the insights!
I don’t know if anyone asked Jane Goodall what she thought of Disney’s Tarzan film, but I suspect she would be even more jealous of the Jane in that version. I probably would’ve been, even if the guy wasn’t aquatic.
I didn’t watch the Tarzan film, only some previews. One memorable bit was Jane saying she’d been rescued by a wild man in a loincloth and her father (?) going “Loincloth, oh my God” as if that was the most shocking thing about it (which it probably was).
TV Tropes called the entirety of The Emperor’s New Groove “arguably the Crowning Moment of Funny for the entire animated Disney canon.” I agree. I only saw a few snippets of the spinoff TV show, but it looked awful.
Atlantis was also funny, in a somewhat less slapstick way Favorite quote: “So…cookies are sweet but yours is not, your doctor is kindly but that’s not his name, Audrey is sweet but she is not your doctor, and this tiny digging animal, Mole, he is your pet?”
I liked Lilo and Stitch, but liked the spinoff TV show more, and was especially fond of Experiment 625 aka Reuben. That sassy little glutton is adorable.
I didn’t love Tarzan, but a lot of that is that I find Rosie O’Donnell to be rather annoying. OK, extremely annoying. Pretty sure I let the kids watch it and went and read a book or something instead.
Emperor’s New Groove has some incredibly funny lines (the lever) and characters, but the story itself is just OK. Lilo has a great concept and is underrated, except by Mari obviously. :-)
And yes, now we get to the era where Pixar started rendering Disney irrelevant. For a while anyway.
Noooooooo, aw come on, no skipsies!!!
I get that you’re going with a book theme because Tor, but Tor.com has numerous blog posts and ongoing series on just nerdy pop culture in general. Nothing here is strictly books. So….why must it be Read-Watch when you yourself want to write more about Lilo & Stitch??? D:
I’m immensely enjoying your write-ups as History of Disney Animation, not “Oh, hey…here’s all the ways they didn’t keep dark stuff from Victor Hugo.” I wanna read ALL of them! Even for the ones I never saw (coughDinosaurcough)!
*whine* ;)
Regarding Atlantis: The Lost Empire, I was always under the impression that it was “inspired” by Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, an early 90s Japanese television series about a exotic girl (with mysterious blue stone amulet), her encounter with a young boy inventor and their eventual journey aboard a mysterious submarine to seek a hidden kingdom of secrets.
My six year old daughter fell in love with Disney’s Tarzan several years ago, to the point of requesting a Tarzan birthday cake two years in a row–and the second one being when every other little girl was getting a Frozen cake.
I’m sorry we don’t get a detailed post on Lilo and Stitch (yet?), it is such a fun romp. My family also really enjoys the quirky humor of The Emperor’s New Groove. But Atlantis completely misses the mark with us; the stereotyped scientists and other characters are such lazy, boring writing to me.
I agree with you on (the character) Tarzan’s exceptional blandness. I found Jane more interesting. I wonder how many boys identified strongly with Tarzan in this movie? Was he an attractive Larger Self for many young boys, or not? Sure, he looked like he was having fun surfing the trees, but did many kids want to be him? My guess is that the movie would have had more staying power if Tarzan had been a character in whom boys liked to see themselves. If he had been, say, funny-smart in the face of the bullying of his childhood.
I also feel that there wasn’t really any effective emotional payoff later in the movie for the love of Kala for her baby Tarzan. And no, I don’t think that emotional payoff should have involved Kala dying! I just don’t remember any moment of “hey, thanks for not leaving me to die, Mom.” Holding his hand up to hers again, saying, “different…and exactly the same”. Maybe it happened and was deeply moving and I just don’t recall it because, well, bland. It’s interesting that I can more easily imagine Jane doing the hand thing with Kala than Tarzan!
On the survival of mothers….Dumbo’s mother also survives, and she and Dumbo get to share their private car on the circus train at the end of the movie. But then, Dumbo is still a child when the movie ends. So the appropriate payoff for her great love for him is different than it would be for Kala and Tarzan.
I agree with you on (the character) Tarzan’s exceptional blandness. I wonder how many boys identified with Tarzan as a Larger Self? Sure, he looked like he was having fun surfing the trees, but did they want to be him? My guess is that the movie would have had more staying power if more kids had seen themselves in Tarzan. If he had been, say, smart-funny in the face of the bullying of his childhood.
I also feel that there was no really effective emotional payoff for the love of Kala for her baby Tarzan. I don’t remember any moment where he says “hey, thanks for not leaving me to die, Mom.” Holds his hand up to hers and says, “Different…but exactly the same.” Maybe it happened and was very moving and I just don’t recall it because, well, bland. It’s interesting that I can more easily imagine Jane doing the hand thing with Kala than Tarzan.
Jason@28, there are definitely parallels, at least. And Nadia is a loose adaptation of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, so if you really wanted to crowbar in an Atlantis article….
LILO AND STITCH
LILO AND STITCH
Come on! There’s just so much to work with. It’s the single best Disney film for a decade in either direction, it’s one of the three or four best of all time, and it’s /different/. It looks different — partly because it’s largely one man’s (Chris Sanders’) vision — and the story mixes silliness and darkness in a way that no other big-ticket Disney feature has ever pulled off. (“They went out for a drive one night…”) Disney animation has never looked quite like that before or since.
My personal opinion is that it’s a fascinating might-have-been, an experiment that was never followed up. But I’d be really interested to hear your take on it.
Doug M.
“Lilo and Stitch is basically Calvin and Hobbes, except instead of Calvin and Hobbes it’s Calvin and Even More Calvin.”
Also, the gender thing. Protagonist is a young girl who is not a princess. The main backup character is her big sister. Primary antagonist is an (alien) old lady who is not a villain — she’s just trying to protect the galaxy from a rogue WMD.
Also-also, the ART. And not just those watercolor backgrounds. Is there a single straight line in this movie?
Also3, the pillow-screaming bit? Maybe the most emotionally true scene in any Disney movie ever.
Doug M.
@25 Interesting that you brought up Jane Goodall. I always thought that movie Jane’s decision to stay in the jungle with the gorillas was a reference to Goodall! It’s a lot easier to believe that decision when a real life person actually did choose to do that.
Anyway, I loved Disney’s Tarzan, and still have fond memories of it. Regarding Tarzan’s blandness, I guess never really noticed it before. On reflection, it probably stems from how “perfect” Tarzan is – no obvious character flaws, amazingly competent, superhuman strength, agility, and intelligence – but that’s all straight from the source material. Disney did give him an interesting dilemma, i.e. the choice to stay with his old friends or his new friends, but perhaps that felt less like character development because so much of it is externally driven.
@34 – I will say, regarding Lilo and Stitch, while it wasn’t one of my favorites when I saw it in college, a year or so ago my son started getting really into it and in some ways I think I appreciate it more as an adult, for many of those reasons. I think some of the family themes mean more to me now that I actually have a family (I mean, not that I didn’t have a family in college, but it just wasn’t the kind of thing I was thinking a lot about).
But I still prefer the musicals :)
Nothing points up to how uninteresting Tarzan is than the fact that the vast majority of the comments on this read-watch are about the last eight paragraphs rather than the first 23…….
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
“Yea! I’m a llama again! Wait…”
The Emperor’s New Groove is the best Disney film ever. My girlfriend and I watch it again at least once a year just so we can laugh, feel good, and chant Demon Llama at each other for a solid week after.
@@@@@ Doug M: Who are you quoting (the line about Calvin & Hobbes)?
@@@@@ krad: To be fair, those last eight paragraphs cover five movies (none of which will get their own article) as opposed to just one. I actually liked Tarzan quite a lot. I’m also not sure why so many people are saying he’s bland, given that he actually has distinct character traits, which is more than you can say of some other Disney heroes.
Once again, @krad nails it. :-)
“Lilo and Stitch” and “The Emperor’s New Groove” are both SO great, but you’re right, they don’t fall within the purview of this series. I just want to say that my cat is named Stitch, due to the fact that he had yet to grow into his ears as a kitten, and they were HUUUGE :)
Lilo and Stitch might not fit the Read-Watch format, but that just means that you should go back after the Read-Watch is complete, and cover it in a Disney Watch-Watch feature! I loved everything about that movie. The quirky artwork and characters, and of course the the nexus of chaos that is Stitch. Oh, and I could listen to him laugh for hours. I even like that Stitch ride in Tomorrowland that no one else seems to like.
I have never seen anything but a few clips of the Disney Tarzan movie, and a few glimpses of the TV show. What I don’t remember seeing is any Africans. Did I just come in at the wrong times? Or was Disney’s Tarzan jungle inhabited only by animals and European explorers? That seems kind of creepy to me…
What, no mention of how Tarzan looks like “Weird Al” Yankovic, especially since it came out around when he stopped wearing glasses?
I think “Emperor’s New Groove” tried a little too hard to be hip for the time, but it still has some really funny moments.
Pixar movies still don’t count as Disney Animated Classics, but apparently Merida from “Brave” can still be a Disney Princess.
It might be unrealistic for an elephant to climb onto a boat in full sail, but they can totally swim – they’ve been recorded swimming upwards of 20km to shore from a sinking ship.