Greetings, oh my friends, and welcome back to the ongoing (and possibly never-ending, if he keeps writing at this pace) rereads of Brandon Sanderson’s amazing Cosmere! Coming soon to a Thursday near you is the long-awaited Warbreaker reread, wherein we will discuss Color, Biochroma, Breath, and (dun dun dun) Nightblood. And related matters. But not today, so much. Today, we introduce.
This is going to be an interesting experiment, because Warbreaker was an interestingly-composed book. It was originally published free, chapter by chapter, on brandonsanderson.com, with “alpha-reading” done by anyone who cared to comment. Additionally, he posted detailed annotations (also chapter by chapter) on his website for everyone to read. This means that it probably had the most extensive and exhaustive alpha/beta read ever done on any novel, ever, and we have more insight into what the author intended to do than we usually get—even with a relatively transparent author like Sanderson.
On the other hand, we now know there is more information to be had. He didn’t tell us everything! For instance, the annotations don’t mention the fact that Warbreaker originated as a place for Zahel and Nightblood to be from. They originally appeared in what’s now called “The Way of Kings Prime”—the earlier version that was extensively reworked before it was published. One of the many changes was that he pulled Zahel and Nightblood out of the first volume so that he could give them their own backstory first. They reappeared, then, in Words of Radiance, after Warbreaker was out, so we could have the jaw-dropping fun of wondering how? where? when? why? what???
That connection, in large part, triggered the desire to do the Warbreaker reread, so we could look more closely at these two characters. I wanted to see what we could learn about them that would help us understand their move to Roshar.
Before proceeding further, allow me to introduce myself to any newcomers. I’m a long-time commenter (since early 2009) on Tor.com, under the username Wetlandernw: Wetlander, because I first joined in on Leigh Butler’s excellent Wheel of Time reread during a particularly soggy Seattle winter, and the “nw” suffix because when I registered someone had already taken the username Wetlander (though he’d never used it, and still hasn’t to the best of my knowledge). Through a series of many unexpected events, I had the privilege of joining Brandon’s team of beta-readers in 2013, just in time to work on Words of Radiance. Since then, I’ve done alpha-, beta-, and gamma-reading on many of his new books and stories, and every time, I marvel again at the versatility and imagination of my favorite living author.
As if that weren’t enough, Tor.com has given me the honor of introducing several of his books here, and I recently completed the reread of Words of Radiance. Begun as a partnership with Carl Engle-Laird, it was a marvelous way to enter these waters, and I will always owe Carl a tremendous debt. (I still miss his humor and insight on the rereads, but he has other work to be doing now, which benefits us all by introducing new authors, so… I guess… Okay, fine. We love you, Carl!) Now that we’ve finished WoR, and while we’re still waiting for Oathbringer, this seemed like a perfect time to do a shorter work, and Tor.com has allowed me the fun of tackling Warbreaker.
On a personal note, I grew up in Montana and graduated back in the dark ages with a major in Chemical Engineering and minors in Chemistry and English Literature. Even though I’m roughly as old as the hills, I now find myself in possession of two lovable and crazy-making teenagers, and a loving—and very patient—husband who tolerates my fan-girling quite well. My daughter and I like to do cosplay for book signings and things, and she was recently allowed to participate in the gamma-read of The Dark Talent, which was totally wild for a 13-year-old. (“Target audience” much?) My 15-year-old son is one of the reasons I love characters like Renarin and Steris so much; he has Down Syndrome (with all its frequently-occurring obsessive-compulsive behaviors), and Brandon’s effort to not only include but understand people with disabilities warms my heart. We live in the Seattle area, where the hills really are the greenest greens, and the skies are indeed a lovely blue… when they aren’t grey. (Indian summer FTW!! It’s been gorgeous the last couple of weeks!)
Back to Warbreaker.
The structure of the reread will be much the same as past efforts, tailored to the subject. Riffing off the Words of Radiance reread, which riffed off other rereads & rewatches, we’ll use the “recurring unit” approach again. As with WoR, there are many units, and not every unit will be applicable to every chapter. You can expect to see something like this:
Chapter #
Point of View: (character)
Setting: (location)
Timing: (relative to the previous chapter(s))
Take a Deep Breath: This will be a hopefully-brief recap, much like the IN WHICH opener of the Words of Radiance reread—and I really do want to keep it that succinct. Most of these chapters aren’t long, and you’ll really want to read them if you possibly can. I can’t, and really don’t want to, cover every detail of every chapter, but in order for you to point out the things I left out, you need to … well, reread it.
Breathtaking: Also known as the Quote of the Week, this will be the thing I think most needs to be quoted verbatim for some reason or other. Or no reason at all. You know how it is.
Local Color: One of the unique things about Warbreaker is the sheer volume of authorial insight we’ve been given via Sanderson’s annotations, and we’ll take advantage of that. This unit will provide a recap, with quotations as appropriate, of his notes on each chapter as we go. I have no idea how this will work out, since I’ve never done this before. Watch me learn? Wooo…
Snow White and Rose Red: The Idrian Royal family, particularly Siri and Vivenna, are central characters in the story, so they get their own unit. (At least for now.) I’ll be focusing especially on the development of their characters, with emphasis on the differences in the ways the sisters change throughout the book.
As I Live and Breathe: With Biochroma as the magic-driver on Nalthis, this unit will deal with active magics as we see them happening. Primarily, of course, this will be people using (or attempting to use) Breath to do what they need. Hopefully, it will also reflect a growing understanding of how Investiture works under Endowment’s influence.
Clashing Colors: While the action of the book takes place in Idris and Hallandren, there are other cultures woven through the book, some with greater impact than others. I’d like to focus in on unique aspects of these varied cultures, and the relationships between them. This will involve the current threats of war and the real or anticipated effects of said war.
In Living Color: Obviously, the Returned need a unit of their own. This includes a lot of major players, so it’s quite possible that after while I’ll decide it needs to be broken out. For now, though, this will be home for all the Returned in the Court of the Gods, as well as the Five Scholars. Initially, this will also take in the priests and servants of the gods, except when they belong in Clashing Colors… but I’m not quite sure how this will work out.
Don’t Hold Your Breath (Give it to Me!): I’m not entirely sure this one justified, but I’m doing it anyway. This is the unit for permanently-Awakened objects… like Nightblood, the Lifeless, etc. There are a bunch of them, and worth pointing out, but I honestly won’t know until we get going just how much there will be to say about them.
Background Color: This is another one which I’m unsure of the value, but I’m including it for now. This will be discussions of ancient history, such as the Manywar. It may be that the past actions of the Five Scholars will be included here, or they might just stay in In Living Color. There’s some overlap, clearly; we’ll see how it plays out.
Like Fresh Blue Paint on a Wall: Borrowed from Zahel in Words of Radiance, this is the old “Just Sayin’” unit. How much exercise it will get, I don’t know—I don’t recall a lot of world-specific idioms, but then, I didn’t memorize the book. (I almost called this one “Colorful Metaphors” in a shout-out to Star Trek IV, but decided to stay in-Cosmere instead.)
Exhale: The former Commentary is (for now) moved to the end, where it will collect all the things I need to talk about that don’t fit anywhere else. It will be interesting to see whether it remains the longest section, or gets shortened because I’ve got so many other places to put things.
You’ll notice that there isn’t currently a specific unit for Worldhoppers, nor for Cosmere-level implications of the things we’re reading. These and, I’m sure, many other things will be stuffed into the Exhale unit, unless there seems to be so much of something that it deserves its own unit. But I don’t think so. Anyway, that’s how it’s shaking out at the moment. As always, the structure is pretty much carved in Jell-O, so feel free to provide comments and suggestions if you see ways it could be improved!
One more thing… Warbreaker is not nearly so replete with artwork as was Words of Radiance. So not-replete, in fact, that the only artwork involved is the exceptionally lovely cover painting, by Dan Dos Santos, and the map of T’Telir, by Shawn Boyles. There is, however, some very fine—and some very fun—fan art out there. On occasion, when I find something I like and can get permission to use it, I hope to include some of that here. If you find something appropriate, by all means share it!
Last disclaimer: I have not (yet) gone through all the available versions of Warbreaker to identify characters or events which were cut before the final version. I hope to do some of that, at least, as we go, but it would be great if y’all want to pitch in on that effort.
Well, ready or not, here it comes!
Alice Arneson is a SAHM, blogger, beta reader, and fantasy fan excited by rumors that the Oathbringer beta read may be starting in the near future. This will cause her to over-compartmentalize her brain to keep from leaking spoilers on the reread and may result in bizarre personality disorders. You’ve been warned. If you Facebook, you can join her in the Tor-Sanderson-rereader-specific group known as the Storm Cellar; since it’s a closed group, you have to ask to join. Identify yourself as a Tor friend, and Deana or Alice will add you!
I have been looking forward to this for some time.
That’s a really cool icon / image at the top.
Thanks for doing this Alice.
travyl @2 – Isn’t that gorgeous?? Jamie’s doing, and totally stunning.
Hey, thanks for doing this. I’m excited.
The chapters in Warbreaker are or potentially can be significantly shorter (IIRC) than in WoR. For planning purposes, are you thinking to do just one chapter per entry? Or are you going to try to get 2 or 3 depending on size? (Meaning, I just reread the prologue yesterday cause you warned us this was on, and it really isn’t that long…)
That heading art piece is gorgeous! I’ve been looking forward to this. I’m a long time lurker and hope to participate. Happy Reread Day, Alice!
For Carl:
Looking forward to the new adventure!
And I really like the new heading image.
Edit: For those that want more great animal images, the one above came from the 2016 Comedy Wildlife Photography contest.
I’ve really been looking forward to this reread. As September finished and October began, I started to get worried, but now my worries are gone and my anticipation for Thursday afternoons is renewed!
I think I’ll read along. I’ve never actually read the final version of Warbreaker. I read version 4.0 prior to its release, and never circled back around.
Awesome! I finished Warbreaker about half a year ago, so while I won’t be reading along, I will definitely be checking in to remember my favorite parts and get your unique insight.
Sanderson foreverrrr!
@9:
It sure seems like it sometimes. He got started young, and is so prolific, by the time he finally retires, it’ll seem like he was always there….
@9 & 10 – LOL! Yes, indeed… He’ll probably still be writing when I’m dead and gone!!
sillyslovene @@.-@ – Yeah, I forgot to include that information… So here’s the plan. The first week will just be the Prologue, because there’s a lot to unpack. After that, I’ll play it by ear; if a chapter is long, or just dense, it will stand alone, but shorter chapters will be bundled together in a week. (There’s one chapter that’s all of four sentences long, IIRC. It’s got a lot of implication packed in, but… really, four sentences just can’t carry an entire week! Unless it’s a holiday week when there normally wouldn’t be any post, maybe.) HOWEVER: It’s a judgement call, and it’s my judgement doing the calling. :)
In any case, I’ll try to work far enough ahead that I can tell you each week what will be covered the following week, though I make no absolute guarantees.
ETA: Braid_Tug @6 – That is priceless!
Ready, set, go. The Prologue only next week, IIRC.
And I am thrilled to see my reading buddy, Firemyst, jumping in.
ETA–question answered @11, thanks Alice.
Thanks Alice. I’m looking forward to this. Although I’ve read the free version on Brandon’s website (and then made sure to purchase a copy as well to expressmy thanks) I haven’t really gone through the annotations so I am excited to see that included in the reread.
Can’t wait to discuss Vasher and Nightblood!
Yay! Looking forward to this.
Soooo, how many Colour/Breath puns did you reject when choosing the unit titles?
Awesome!! Sanderson is my favourite author as well and this is one of my favourite books. Can’t wait!
I literally squealed at my desk when I saw this pop up! I read this book either this year or last…I’ve been reading pretty much everything Sanderson I can get my hands on, EXCEPT for Worlds of Radience (I figured I’d catch up on his other stuff and then maybe another book would have come out by then) and I’m actually almost done! I’m about halfway through Shadows of Self right now, and so need to finish up his other Mistborn stuff (including some of the short stories), but other than that – I think I’ve read more or less everything. I totally agree with you on how versatile he is and how much I love his more non-typical characters (as an aside, am I the only person that got an impression that the narrator of Reckoners isn’t quite neurotypical? I know that his complete inability to make good metaphors is supposed to be somewhat of a joke, but I have sometimes wondered if it stood for something more). Steris is also one of my favorites an done I can relate to a bit ;) I also really want somebody on Tor to do an Alcatraz re-read (I JUST finished Dark Talent a few days ago and really really really want somebody to geek out over with but there’s no way to talk about it without either spoiling the whole thing, or without the person having any clue what you’re talking about) and point out all the tropey-ness and foreshadowing and theories.
BUT! I am super excited about this although perhaps I will have to be wary of WoR spoilers.
I will say that Warbreaker is so far one of my leaset favorite of his works…I honestly had a hard time getting into Lightsong’s narration. Usually Sanderson’s humor lines up pretty well with mine, but Lightsong just felt really forced (and that might have been the intention but I just found myself grimacing inwardly whenever the POV shifted to him). But one thing I have always enjoyed about his work was the way he writes people of faith/conviction and how that impacts their lives – and how those beliefs evolve and mature in an individual over time. I think for some authors religion is just kind of a set dressing (or characters are described as over the top fanatical), but when I read Sanderson’s works I get the impression that the characters actually do have a faith that is impacting their philosophies and day to day events.
PS: So much fun to see a WOT re-reader join the Tor ranks :)
I’m just here to say Eeeeeee!!!
Way to go Alice. Do you have a favorite non-living author?
I am a huge Sanderson fan! This will be my first reread can’t wait!
This is my first time commenting too! I followed the whole of the WoR reread and never commented once, though I came close a few times. I read the online version of Warbreaker a year ago, then immediately bought a copy which I haven’t even opened yet. But I will this week! So excited to hear what you (and everyone else) have to say about it Alice! (Also, I love your name so much, my third daughter has it for her name (she’s 6, don’t let it go to your head????)
I just reread the prologue yesterday because I remembered that this reread was coming soon.
Oooh Warbreaker re-read has arrived!! I remember reading this for the first time…must have been back in 2010, when the whole book was on Brandon’s site. Is it still there, I wonder? (I also read all the annotations he put out!)
Anyways, I eventually did buy the proper book when it came out. I want to say Warbreaker is one of my favorite Sanderson works, but that’s really quite difficult to say as I love all of his books so much. Excited to see your thoughts on this, Alice!!
And Lisa @@@@@ 17…I always got the impression that Lightsong was a bit of a polarizing character, at least in my crowd! And your comment confirms that. I personally love the Lightsong bits and am always super excited when I get to one of his sections…I’m not quite sure why, but there you go.
#15 @ChocolateRob – Alice asked for suggestions over on FB. I’m sad (but not at all surprised) that my nomination for a Vasher unit titled “Chroma-Chameleon” didn’t get used. :) With that one exception, I think these are great choices! Looking forward to next week.
@17 Warbreaker is one of my favorite books, and Lightsong is a huge reason. I absolutely loved him. He felt so effortless to me. I can’t imagine not liking him lol. Anyway, I’m really excited for this reread. I’ve missed the characters.
Yay.
Warbreaker is my least-favorite Cosmere book, though that’s partly because I read The Way of Kings and Words of Radiance first, so the rest were underwhelming by comparison. I hope this reread will help me like it more, and I look forward to finally joining the Cosmere conversation on Tor, having finished WoR at the same time as tbe reread did.
Sonofthunder@22:
Yup.
http://www.brandonsanderson.com/drafts/warbreaker/Warbreaker_hardcover_1st_ed.pdf
Thanks for doing this Alice, chalk me in as one of the people really excited for this!
Warbreaker always felt kind of special in the Sanderson oeuvre to me – not because of its process, which I sadly missed out on but is definitely pretty unique, but more because it occupies an interstitial space between his more breezy reads and the fantasy novels going for a more epic or serious feel. It doesn’t have the pure adventure romp fun of, say, Alloy of Law, but even at its darkest/most serious, you can feel a lighter touch in the writing.
Plus Lightsong is without a doubt my favorite one-book character of Sanderson’s – and because that limits his competition greatly and I don’t want to indicate he’s just a big fish in a small pond, he’s also just in my top Sanderson characters in general. What can I say, I’m a sucker for a nice, compact character arc that has a couple of just gut-punchingly powerful scenes at the end.
This made my day!! Looking forward to the Warbreaker re-read. I knew it was coming but I’ve been so busy I forgot when. It’s been a very nice surprise.
Warbreaker seems to grow more on me with every re-read I do. Vivenna went from a character I didn’t think much of it to one of my favorite characters after the reading it the first time. I still wonder what happened to her between Warbreaker and Way of Kings.
I had the privilege of being one of the people who was involved in the chapter by chapter editing process, so I had happily read rough drafts, partly edited drafts, and so on, well before I bought my copy of Warbreaker, but it is still one of my favorites to re-read. I’m not sure how involved I can be in the conversation, but I would love to jump in when I have time.
Hi Alice, I’ve also been looking forward to this re-read since the end of the WoR re-read. I guess I missed your company and all the delightful folks on the WoR re-read when it finally ended. Looks like Thursdays are going to liven up again. Onward!
Looking forward to this. Warbreaker may be my favorite Sanderson novel.
Nice to see you doing this, and good luck!
Wow! I’m delighted to see so many folks excited to start this reread! I’m also pleased to see such a diversity of reactions to the book: such different reactions to the book as a whole, as well as to specific characters. This should make for great discussion, and that makes me very happy. Also, the mix of returning and new rereaders is fantastic, and I strongly encourage those who have been lurking to get involved. It’s always better with more voices, IMO.
I deeply appreciate all the suggestions I got for units and titles. In the process of creating the outline, the list expanded and shrank several times, and I know there’s a possibility that by the time we’re a month in, I might decide to modify it again. I also took all the suggestions for titles into account, and though I certainly couldn’t use all of them, I did use some, while others shifted me in directions that worked better. In the end, I chose to go with titles that all reflect either color or breath (who suggested that? It was an excellent notion!), and mostly phrases or idioms that are common usage (at least to me!) or directly from the book. I toyed with a number of phrases from other SFF works (Terry Pratchett, Star Trek, Red Dwarf, to name a few) but decided not to go there. It was fun, and I probably spent way too much time and energy on it. :)
Lisamarie @17 – If you’re a facebook person, the Storm Cellar has a separate discussion going on Alcatraz where you can geek out and throw spoilers as much as you want. There are some real doozies in The Dark Talent, and I know what you mean about wanting company for it!
Bellaberry @18 — Eeeeeee!!! to you too! ;) Glad you’re here. I don’t think I can pick just one favorite non-living author; that English Lit thing introduced me to so many great ones. The ones I love to reread most are probably (in no particular order) Jane Austen, G.K. Chesterton, Charles Williams, C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkein, Dorothy Sayers. But I also have stacks of Margery Allingham and Ellis Peters, Robert Jordan (of course!), Shakespeare… :) What can I say – I love to read. But not Flannery O’Connor.
(Also: N.D. Wilson is probably my second-favorite living author, both fiction and non-fiction. He twists my brain too, though in different ways than Sanderson.)
stormlightchick @20 – Hey, that’s cool! Alice is not a very common name any more; I’ve only known five or six others in my life, so I think it’s wonderful that your daughter shares it too! And I promise I won’t take credit… much. ;)
Oh, and re: Lightsong – We’ll get into this as we go, of course, but I’m really looking forward to the different inputs we’re going to get. As Sonofthunder notes @22, he’s a polarizing character, so it should be thought-provoking to examine him from different angles. I initially wanted to do the Warbreaker reread mostly for Vasher, and secondly for Siri and Vivenna, but when I read it again this summer, I realized there are a lot of other things worth drawing out. Lightsong is definitely one of them; I got a completely different “read” on him my third time through the book.
Uh… wall-of-text FTW? Sorry…
Yea!
I’ve been looking forward to this for a while!
*Sinks back into the deep abiss of long-term lurking*
Yay!!! Thanks Alice!!! Will comment later. just wanted to say thank you for starting this reread. :-)
I had an email exchange with Sanderson about Warbreaker before it was published. I’ll have to see if I can find it. It had to do with how obscure he wanted the end sequence to be. I thought it was a bit telegraphed and I guessed right about half way through how the major plot points would resolve. His responses were very illuminating for how to balance giving the reader enough information and keeping enough back to surprise the reader. I think I just got lucky with my guess because I’m usually terrible at predicting how a book plot will come together in the end. Because of this exchange, I’ve always had a nice memory of reading Warbreaker. When Vasher and Nightblood showed up in WoK, I remember being puzzled but excited and trying to fill in the gap between the end of Warbreaker and WoK for them but failing miserably. Looking forward to the re-read.
So excited!! I’ll have to re-read along as it’s been awhile since I read it.
Siri and Vivenna ARE my sister and me. So during the first part of the book it’s hard for me to like Viv, I just silently yell at her “Stop being so bossy, you are not her mother!! You don’t know best!!”
Looking forward to this! Glad to have you back, Alice.
I’ve probably told this story before, but my first read of Warbreaker was online, all in one sitting (oh man, was I tired the next day), after it was announced that Brandon would be finishing WoT. I wanted to see if this new guy was worthy of finishing my favourite series. Turns out, he was. Ten years later, Brandon continues to impress me.
Can’t wait to dig into the text.
@17. Lisamarie
Re. Lightsong, I’m right there with you. Part of that though is the fault of the audiobook narrator. He turned Lightsong into a parody of a surfer dude bro. It’s a testament to how much I love Nightblood that I was able to listen to the end.
@39 I totally think Lightsong is supposed to be full of grating affectations. For all that he’s a viewpoint character, he’s faking as much as the other schemers.
@39 I may be biased, since I listened to Warbreaker before I read it, but the incredibly-laid-back Lightsong has always worked for me.
Heh. Lightsong is one of my most favorite characters ever!
@38 Jeremyguebert: I appreciate that backstory on you :)
@Alice: Ha! I guess that was a bit of an unfair question but good answers!
@17 Lisamarie: I actually dislike religion in Brandon books. So there is a different perspective. I dont find any of the objects of faith to be worthy of the faith they receive. That makes the adherents of the religions look rather silly to me. Call me a cosmere atheist. Harmony is the only “God” I find remotely god-like and he’s more like a friend in high places than like someone to be worshiped.
@43 RE: @17:
You may someday find that to be a feature, not a bug. At any rate, its certainly intentional on Brandon’s part, because none of them are God. Not completely, at least. Each Shard is both an aspect of a complete deity, and an uplifted human. They fall short of being worthy of worship because they are short of being worthy of worship. And yet…
We humans have been worshiping things that don’t deserve it for millennia. One might even say that worship is the natural condition of the human soul. I think the point you make about religion in Sanderson’s books makes them seem very real, given the context of the Cosmere.
@39 It looks like the audiobook was re-released with a new reader. I guess others weren’t happy with the surfer dude either.
Yes! All the excitement! All the joy!
Excited for this reread! I was actually rereading Warbreaker in any case, so I was happy to hear that this would coincide with it.
I didn’t like Warbreaker very much the first time I read it—the politics stuff was often kinda confusing, I didn’t really connect with any of the characters except maybe Denth, and the PDF came out in really really tiny print on my Kindle—so I’m rereading it in physical form to try to like it better. So far it’s working, so I’m happy. Another Sanderson book to love!
Anyone else read Mythwalker? It’s an old not-very-good Brandon Sanderson book (from his unpublished days) that he was trying to write “to the market”, but had to give up partway through because it just wasn’t working. He did, however, steal Siri, Vivenna, and a lot of Siri’s plot from it. He has it posted on his website chapter-by-chapter for as far as he wrote, with commentary from Peter Ahlstrom at the end of each chapter. (The commentary was sometimes more fun than the chapter.) It’s extremely amusing in all of its awkwardness, and also has a truly awesome side character who totally outshone all of the main characters (IMHO).
Also, why does Warbreaker always prompt people to make world-based puns much more than other Sanderson books?
Yes! I have electronic and paper versions of this book, and I can get in at the beginning of the reread, and I have a semi-reliable interns source! No more lurking! I can contribute! Sort of.
@Nave_misanthrope this will also be my first reread where I contribute since the beginning
@47: Because Lightsong inspires puns?
But really the color idioms are more a Zahel thing. Vasher and crew don’t say them much. I think this is for two reasons:
1) “Translation errors” – ie, the book is ‘translated’ from their language to English – but the translation is smooth in Warbreaker. Yet when Vasher is moved into a new world, his translations break down, so his phrases come out sounding strange to the locals of Roshar. Thus they stand out to us too.
2) Brandon’s growth as a writer. He’s better now then he was in 2009. He’s made a larger effort to incorporate unique word choices and idioms into his worlds. Mistborn Era 2 is a much richer world in the terms of idiom used than Era 1. So he might not have thought to include too many color idioms in 2009. If rewritten now, my bet is more would exist in book.
@@@@@45. Uvadoc06 “It looks like the audiobook was re-released with a new reader. I guess others weren’t happy with the surfer dude either. “
Thank you! I had no idea it’d been rerecorded. I guess I’ll be able to participate in this reread after all!
Hmmm, I’ve fallen off the Tor Re-Read train for the past year or so. Maybe this will get me back into it.
Count me as another huge Lightsong fan. I thought he was hilarious — and that his humor, while sometimes cheesy, felt less forced than the same jokes would be, coming from Kelsier or Shallan. More in-character, perhaps?
@43 – I don’t disagree with you from an external point of view (especially given what the reader knows about the nature of the Cosmere), but from an IN universe view, it feels like real people. And I also appreciate how many of the stories involve the conflict between conviction and rigidity/arrogance in one’s beliefs.
Before we get started, I’d like everyone to take a good look at the author quote by Moorcock. Notice anything in particular?
A Warbreaker reread! First time I’ve managed to hop on board right at the very beginning. This could be exceptionally interesting, considering the sheer amount of notes Brandon has left.
@54 – Ha! That’s how you know he’s read the book (or at least the description somewhere…).
Thanks, Alice, for starting on this new reread to keep us busy until the new Stormlight book hopefully makes its appearance next year. As has been pointed out, there is much Sanderson material outside of the Warbreaker text to ponder and debate.
People have been mentioning favorite characters – particularly, Lightsong. As I recall, he was also Sanderson’s favorite. My own order of preference is Siri, Susebron, Ligthsong, Vivenna, and Vasher (Nightblood doesn’t make my list). Siri is a charming, adaptable, adventuresome, and empathetic character who helps the damaged god-man (Susebron) turn into a fully human character. Lightsong is a sympathetic character who finds irony in his undeserved status as a god and in the system that has created such impossible expectations. He finds his ‘returned’ life to be useless until the end when he can sacrifice it for a greater cause. Vasher is a scruffy grouch with a hidden high purpose that motivates him to use brutal means to that end. I find him not very appealing ,despite his objective.
A point of note. I have changed my moniker to Kalaxin from STBLST. The latter, a takeoff on ‘stormblessed’, is just too impersonal. Kalaxin is a combination of Kaladin and Talaxin (Vasher) and is intended to imply a blending of Kaladin’s moral stature with Talaxin’s scholarship. It’s a goal rather than a personal description.
Thanks Alice for agreeing to do a Warbreaker reread! Warbreaker was the second Brandon Sanderson novel I ever read and the first novel of his I purchased from the store. I remember reading it the first time through being totally drawn into the world and characters. Also the magic system was totally awesome and different from anything I had read before.
Also just a note to say I miss Carl’s input on the rereads as well, and I hope he may pop in once a while to say hi and maybe a brief commentary if he can?
Woot! Not my target 24-hours-early, but the Prologue is uploaded. We are off and running tomorrow, assuming there aren’t any weird glitches! :D
@Wetlandernw Thanks for letting me know I will read it and join the discussion then.
Just another lurker checking in. Looking forward to this. I agree that he original narrator for lightsong was pretty obnoxious, luckily the new one was much better
Yes. Please.
I discovered Brandon Sanderson in 2015, and I have read EVERY. SINGLE. BOOK. It has been amazing. He’s my favorite author. I started reading the WoT in March, already at Path of Daggers, just so I can get to the last three, which Mr. Sanderson finished for the beloved Robert Jordan. Can’t wait to read more.
Wonderful. I’m looking forward to this. I picked up the Warbreaker audible version on a sale a while back and this is a great reason to dive back into the book. I really enjoyed your WOR reread and learned so much that I had missed in my own reading of it.
Annotations?
Published as a serial?
Sometimes I am so far out of the loop I don’t even know there IS a loop!
(tugs braid & scowls)
Warbreaker was the first Sanderson book I read, and I was well & truly hooked. I’m excited to jump on the ride with everyone.
@63: The serial publishing and annotations were years ago, to be fair. Prior to him becoming “known” to most of us. Reading his wedding posts from 2006, I saw that he invited his fans to stop by his wedding reception to visit. Can you imagine if he did that now? How many thousands would show up? (links @12 and @14 in the next WB post.)
I just knew Warbreaker was published online because this how I first read it. After reading Mistborn and wanting to know more about this guy who would be finishing WoT.
The annotations have stopped for the most part. Brandon has said – you want more new books OR more annotations? As you know, the resounding answer is “NEW BOOKS! Please!”
Wow, thanks for doing this Alice! I started reading and commenting your re-reads with Words of Radiance and I absolutely love your style! Its kinda like the way I think. Random mixed with some degree of organization. Well, anyway, thanks for doing this and keep up the good work!!
#33 @Wetlandernw – I went back to the FB post to see who suggested that all the unit titles be color or breath, and I can take credit for that one. :) Of course it seems pretty obvious so I’m sure it would have ended up that way regardless.
I’ll be reading this for the first time as I follow the reread
@@@@@ 54 and 55: Indeed, noticed and smirked :)
Throwing my voice in in support for Lightsong (especially fond memories of the lifeless squirrel scene at Allmother’s :) ), though I did like the rest (ie Siri, Vivenna, Susebron, Vasher), too.
Probably won’t be saying a lot in the comments, but always love to see Brandon’s work tackled :)
I actually just finished Warbreaker less than a week ago, so I’m excited to join this discussion. This should be a lot of fun.
I am very exited about this. I just finished re listening to it. I like the Audiobook with James Yaegashi as the commentator. James Yaegashi.
Hey, y’all, things have gotten started. The Prologue post is up for discussion:
http://www.tor.com/2016/10/13/warbreaker-reread-prologue/
Watch for the banner on the front page every Thursday, or search for Warbreaker Reread, or click on my byline at the top of this post, or click on my username and then go to Articles. Any of those will find you the latest installment as we go.
(ETA: it goes up about noon Eastern time every Thursday except Thanksgiving or when I need a break.)
Hi, everyone! I have not read this book, but I want to. Does this article contain any major spoilers?
@72 These rereads always contain spoiler
Okay, thank you, BenW. Much appreciated!
@72 – This article in itself contains a few spoilers; not a lot, but if you haven’t read Words of Radiance, it would spoil some things. The Warbreaker reread is written assuming people have already read the book. That said, if you’re ready to start the book, you’ll finish it in plenty of time to jump into the discussion before we’ve made it very far – and since it will be fresh in your mind, all the better!
I don’t have the book and there’s no way I’d be able to read it in time, but thank you for trying to help.:))
The book is available in its entirety on Brandon’s website: http://brandonsanderson.com/warbreaker-introduction/ Either read it there, or download a PDF, if you have continuing access to a computer. The annotations are there, too. This is one book you can read absolutely free. Use the link at the end of each chapter to move to the next, or use the Navigation drop-down at the top of the page to get to where you left off, if you’re using a library or someone else’s computer to access it. Really, you can!! (but that’s okay, if you don’t have time or whatever.)
Ha, how amusing I too get my handles from Wheel of Time. Back in AOL I used to be Perrin321 and post AOL I used to use Gundam Wing (Trowa/HeavyArms) inspired handle but when I got into the google beta I settled on wolfkin and that’s just who I am now. When I found out about the whole otherkin/wolfkin phenomena I’ve been surprised at how often it hasn’t been taken. One of the notable times was when I bought The Orange Box (physical copy, in person) and had to make a steam account to use it. That’s when I created my back up handle ramdomwolf. You know what I’ve never actually participated in a reread before.. but who knows maybe I’ll read Warbreaker and make this my first one. Well I’ll definitely be doing the former only the latter is optional.