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How Marvel’s No-Prize Helped Shape Modern Fandom

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Published on July 19, 2022

From Iron Man #203 (1986); Art credit: Mark Bright
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From Iron Man #203 (1986); Art credit: Mark Bright

Welcome to Close Reads! In this series, Leah Schnelbach and guest authors dig into the tiny, weird moments of pop culture—from books to theme songs to viral internet hits—that have burrowed into our minds, found rent-stabilized apartments, started community gardens, and refused to be forced out by corporate interests. This time out, Tobias Carroll asks if Marvel’s No-Prize will be humanity’s downfall.

Every few months, like clockwork, I’ll look at what’s trending on Twitter and see people debating whether or not Marvel’s television shows that predated Disney+ are canonical. It is an endless debate and I hate it, and I also hate both the fact that I hate it and the fact that I care enough to hate it. Reading an argument about how Mahershala Ali being cast as Blade means that Luke Cage is definitely out of continuity, or what the bit with the watch at the end of Hawkeye means for Agents of SHIELD, gives me a migraine—sometimes figuratively and sometimes literally.

This is a frustration that goes far beyond the hate-click economy, though. My frustration kicks in because of its implications for reading and watching things—that kind of uncanny projection that happens when everyone is now an expert in the continuities of various storylines. What it makes me think of, above all else, is that the Marvel Comics No-Prize is somehow responsible for this entire state of affairs.

Maybe you’re nodding along, or maybe you’re bewildered right now. Let me explain.

The No-Prize began as a way for Marvel to reward readers who noticed inconsistencies or typos in their comics. Over time, as Brian Cronin points out in his history of the No-Prize, grounds for receiving one—sometimes in the form of an empty envelope—involved noticing seeming inconsistencies in certain comics, and then coming up with a viable reason for why they weren’t inconsistent at all.

This system was in place by the mid-1980s, though the grounds for receiving a No-Prize varied from editor to editor. Cronin’s history includes two succinct descriptions of the No-Prize from editors Christopher Priest (“We only mail them out to people who send us the best possible explanations for important mistakes.”) and Ann Nocenti (“The spirit of the no-prize is not just to complain and nitpick but to offer an exciting solution.”).

Cronin’s overview cites one example of a No-Prize-winning theory: in Iron Man #203, Tony Stark’s armor goes from seemingly being open to covering his chest in the span of two panels where he’s threatened by an enemy with a gun. Crouton Jim Chapman wrote in to theorize that Stark noticed the threat and “activated the holographic projector in his suit to make his chest appear to be unprotected.” Chapman ended up winning a No-Prize for his trouble.

From Iron Man #203 (1986); Art credit: Mark Bright
From Iron Man #203 (1986); Art credit: Mark Bright

It’s probably worth noting here that the No-Prize has gone through several permutations over the decades, and something that won a No-Prize at one point in time might not have qualified for it at another. But this particular iteration lines up with my most intense period of reading superhero comics in the late 1980s and early 1990s. It’s also telling that Priest and Nocenti, cited above, edited the Spider-Man and X-Men lines of comics, respectively—which was where the bulk of my Marvel reading took place back then. I will also confess that I did my fair share of looking through issues for continuity errors so that I might win a No-Prize of my own, something which never quite worked out for me. But the biggest thing I took away from the No-Prize was the notion that someone might end up knowing the ins and outs of a story better than its author.

Death of the author theorizing aside, this isn’t exactly a controversial concept. In a 2017 interview, Robin Furth described her work for Stephen King as it pertained to the Dark Tower series as “[making] lists of characters and places so [King] could check the continuity of events.” And Elio M. García Jr. and Linda Antonsson founded the A Song of Ice and Fire community Westeros.org, and subsequently went on to collaborate with George R.R. Martin on the book The World of Ice and Fire. (It’s probably worth mentioning here that Martin’s early comics fandom is also inexorably connected with the history of the No-Prize. Time is a flat circle—one which Galactus is going to devour any minute now.)

Looking back on the No-Prize as it was in my formative years, I’m left with two conflicting conclusions. The first is that it encouraged a generation of readers to think like storytellers, which is an unabashedly good thing in my book. If you’re examining something and trying to find a solution for what appears to be an error within the internal boundaries of that narrative, that’s one way to get a foothold into telling compelling and internally consistent stories. They aren’t necessarily your stories, but it’s not hard to see where the step to that next level could emerge.

The second conclusion is a little more bleak. It’s that you can also find the inclination to stop looking at a narrative as a story and beginning to see it as a series of problems to be solved in the legacy of the No-Prize. (This, in turn, seems a close cousin to the school of criticism that involves boiling a work down to the tropes it contains.) Some of that is a matter of degree, of course.

To return to the example cited earlier, if someone looks at an Iron Man comic and comes up with a solution to a seeming inconsistency in the art, that process holds the potential of actually expanding the comic’s storyline—of adding an action that the creators may never have intended, but which is nonetheless in keeping with the themes of the book. (In this case, the idea that Tony Stark is resourceful and knows how to think on his feet.) It feels like a slightly more formalized headcanon, and it could lead to revelatory places.

But the idea of reading or watching something nominally for pleasure with the primary goal of finding errors and inconsistencies sounds like the furthest possible thing from pleasure one could imagine. Perhaps it’s for the best that the No-Prize moved on to honoring other things. We’re living in the pop culture world it made, for good or for ill.

reel-thumbnailTobias Carroll is the managing editor of Vol.1 Brooklyn. He is the author of the short story collection Transitory (Civil Coping Mechanisms) and the novel Reel (Rare Bird Books).

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Dan Blum
2 years ago

I sort of hate to mention this, but the dates on all the comics panels are incorrect (1968 instead of 1986). I do not have a clever explanation for this.

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Admin
2 years ago

@1 – Fixed, thanks!

ChristopherLBennett
2 years ago

The art in those Iron Man panels isn’t inconsistent, just misleading. The chestplate is swung open (hinged along Stark’s left side) so that the viewer is seeing it from the side, like the edge of an open door. The perspective is poorly rendered so it’s hard to tell the chestpiece is still there. (I remember this from one of Brian Cronin’s other columns. It took me a few moments to see it then, but I remember it now.)

As for the No-Prize, the thing to remember is that it doesn’t reward merely finding mistakes, but finding solutions for them. I think that’s in direct opposition to the laziness of fans who say “This is slightly inconsistent, therefore it has to be non-canonical/an alternate universe.” They see a problem and instantly give up, because they can’t be bothered to try imagining a solution. People like that would never win a No-Prize.

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2 years ago

@3 – That explanation might have been enough to get you a No-Prize

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2 years ago

When I was a kid (back when Spider-Man was first dating Gwen Stacey), I dearly wanted a No-Prize, but I never worked up the courage to question anything produced by the Mighty Marvel Bullpen.

The No-Prize was one of the many ways Stan Lee and company encouraged a feeling of engagement with the Marvel fans, in a way no one else at the time seemed to be able to duplicate. 

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2 years ago

Fiction isn’t reality and it isn’t going to be consistent.  My read of the No-Prize is that it’s a whimsical and cheap way to handle cases of readers noticing the mistakes, but also to encourage readers to write around the mistakes for you.  The down side is that it encouraged readers to write in about the mistakes and publicise them, although of course you could suppress those letters…  pre internet.  But it meant readers not writing in so much about how the stories were good.

I’ve been trying to remember a quote about reality, or reality as we perceive it, actually not being consistent, and if Terry Pratchett said it.  This from “Wintersmith” isn’t it, but it’s similar.  “People wanted the world to be a story, because stories had to sound right and they had to make sense. People wanted the world to make sense.”

A professional writer getting good material out of a glitch…  I may be stretching a point to point at Kurt Busiek dealing with the 1940s android called “The Human Torch” being still around in his own right but also being what “The Vision” was made out of, by saying a time traveler did it (in his “Avengers Forever”).  J.R.R. Tolkien made interesting use of what I think he claimed was an accidental revision in “The Hobbit”: the original text, Bilbo Baggins was openly gifted a magic ring by a strange little man in a cave; Tolkien tried rewriting it as a more complicated episode, which wasn’t intended for publication?  But it was published…  And so in “The Lord of the Rings”, Bilbo had told some people that the ring was a present to him…  and some of the some people rightly thought that that wasn’t likely, and they got a story closer to the truth from him.

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2 years ago

Fiction isn’t reality and it isn’t going to be consistent.  My read of the No-Prize is that it’s a whimsical and cheap way to handle cases of readers noticing the mistakes, but also to encourage readers to write around the mistakes for you.  The down side is that it encouraged readers to write in about the mistakes and publicise them, although of course you could suppress those letters…  pre internet.  But it meant readers not writing in so much about how the stories were good.

I’ve been trying to remember a quote about reality, or reality as we perceive it, actually not being consistent, and if Terry Pratchett said it.  This from “Wintersmith” isn’t it, but it’s similar.  “People wanted the world to be a story, because stories had to sound right and they had to make sense. People wanted the world to make sense.”

A professional writer getting good material out of a glitch…  I may be stretching a point to point at Kurt Busiek dealing with the 1940s android called “The Human Torch” being still around in his own right but also being what “The Vision” was made out of, by saying a time traveler did it (in his “Avengers Forever”).  J.R.R. Tolkien made interesting use of what I think he claimed was an accidental revision in “The Hobbit”: the original text, Bilbo Baggins was openly gifted a magic ring by a strange little man in a cave; Tolkien tried rewriting it as a more complicated episode, which wasn’t intended for publication?  But it was published…  And so in “The Lord of the Rings”, Bilbo had told some people that the ring was a present to him…  and some of the some people rightly thought that that wasn’t likely, and they got a story closer to the truth from him.

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2 years ago

If Tony Stark turns around quickly, shouldn’t his chest plate swing closed?  And there’s probably magnets or something.

ChristopherLBennett
2 years ago

@4/Bladrak: “That explanation might have been enough to get you a No-Prize”

No, because it’s not my own idea — it’s right there on the page if you look closely enough. It’s what the artist intended all along (as I believe the Cronin column I mentioned confirmed). It’s just hard to see because of the poor use of perspective in that panel. The chestplate is flipped open about 90 degrees relative to the viewer, so we’re seeing it directly from the side and can hardly tell it’s there.

 

@8/rja-carnegie: “If Tony Stark turns around quickly, shouldn’t his chest plate swing closed?”

Hmm, maybe that’s what’s happening there. He pivots to the right and stops, and then the plate continues its clockwise momentum and slams shut.

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2 years ago

@1 – it was Kang the Conqueror changing the time line for some nefarious purpose