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Published on August 5, 2022

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July was spent at home reading and working on the new essay collection, and at the very end flying to Albuquerque for Mythcon, where very excitingly my novel Or What You Will won the Mythopoeic Award! (I never expect to win awards, I’m so thrilled to be nominated for them and on the ballot next to such great books, so it’s always an exciting surprise on the occasions when I do win.) I had a great time at Mythcon, seeing people, through masks, but seeing people, and having conversations. Before that, I read 21 books, and some of them were great and some of them were not. The good ones make up for all the others, and I’m glad I get to burble to you about the excellent ones and warn you off the terrible ones!

The Plus One Pact, Portia MacIntosh (2020)
Funny romance novel in which two people meet, become friends and then roommates while pretending to be dating to provide plus ones for awkward family events, and then… inevitably… end up realising they are perfect for each other. Fun, funny, cheering, but perhaps a little predictable.

The Grand Turk, John Freely (2007)
Biography of Mehmet II, by the same man who wrote the biography of Mehmet’s son Cem that I read in April. Mehmet II was the Ottoman sultan who conquered Constantinople, he was a complex, interesting man who had himself painted by Venetian Renaissance painters and who was interested in Greek and Roman antiquity as well as Islam. The book is solid, good on facts and places and times, but not lively. I have yet to find a lively book about the Ottomans.

Surprised by Joy: The Shape of My Early Life, C.S. Lewis (1955)
He was an odd duck, Lewis, and this is a deeply odd book. It had a strangely compelling quality; once I started it I raced through. Lewis writes about his childhood and early manhood with deep observation and sympathy, but from the perspective of an intellectual history—no, that’s not fair. A spiritual history? He’s focusing on the moments when he experienced what he calls joy, the rush that went through him when he read the words “Baldur the beautiful is dead” and which he found elusive and hard to recapture. He had a very strange childhood, and a terrible school experience, and he was in fact a very peculiar person. It may be because I read the Narnia books early and often, but I feel there are some ways I resonate to him very deeply, and others where he seems completely alien. He’s never less than interesting, and he’s honest and coy in weird and unexpected ways. I really like the parts of this where he’s trying to dissect what “joy” is and how it isn’t lust and how he figured out the difference. It’s fascinating that he hated the trenches of WWI less than boarding school because at least he wasn’t supposed to pretend to like it. Glad I’ve read it.

Utopia Avenue, David Mitchell (2020)
This is a story about an imaginary band in the sixties, and it’s perfect. It is structured in the form of albums, with side one and side two, and the point-of-view character as the person who wrote the “track” that is the chapter. It is a direct sequel to The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet. It’s got this thing going on where the three main characters are all quirky strongly drawn people, and it’s doing a great thing with pacing. I’m not especially interested in the sixties or rock music (though I was charmed to meet Leonard Cohen in the lift of the Chelsea Hotel), but I loved this book for its sharpness, its observation, the things it’s thinking about and connecting up delightfully. Writing this now and thinking of the moments of this book, I want to read it again straight away. This is as good as the best of the other Mitchell I have read, absolutely compelling. Forget Cloud Atlas. Read The Thousand Autumns and then read this.

Mappings, Vikram Seth (1980)
Delightful early poetry collection from Seth as he was finding his voice, lovely poems about trying to work out who he is and where he wants to be, unsure of everything but his powerful scansion. I loved this, and was sorry it was so short.

The Company, K.J. Parker (2008)
This was Parker’s first book as Parker rather than Holt. The events of this book add up to more futility than most of his later ones, but there’s plenty of the fantasy of logistics that I want. Sadly there are some women, who behave very strangely. Mr Holt is alive, and it’s possible that at some point I could meet him and say, look, really, women, we’re people, we do things for the same reasons men do, not for the kinds of mysterious reasons you think, really. But I suspect he wouldn’t be able to hear me, that perhaps the pitch of my voice would be inaudible to him. Some of his men are pretty peculiar too, especially in this book. Don’t start here, even though he did. But having said that, technical details of gold panning, farming disasters… there’s a lot going for it.

Something Fabulous, Alexis Hall (2022)
A gay regency romance with twins, by an author whose contemporary romances I enjoyed, how could I not love this? Good question, and one that’s hard to answer. I didn’t love it, it failed to convince me. Unlike K. J. Charles Society of Gentlemen books, this wasn’t a version of the Regency that I could suspend my disbelief in. At best I was smiling where I was supposed to be laughing, and often I was rolling my eyes. Disappointing.

Elizabeth of the German Garden: A Literary Journey, Jennifer Walker (2013)
This is a biography of Elizabeth von Arnim—whose actual name was Mary Beauchamp, who married Count von Arnim and who used both Elizabeth and von Arnim as names but never together. Walker talks about Elizabeth the author persona as Mary’s creation and mask. She had a very interesting life, at the end of the nineteenth and beginning of the twentieth century, and wrote a number of books I esteem highly. This is a good biography, well written and thoughtful. It seems to be Walker’s first book. I’ll watch out for more by her.

Love the One You’re With, Emily Giffin (2008)
I have enjoyed a lot of Giffin but I hated this one. The thing that sometimes annoys me about her work is the slavering love of wealth—American unexamined brand-name suburban wealth. This is a book about settling, and it’s in favour. Skip it.

Miss Angel: The Art and World of Angelica Kauffman, Eighteenth Century Icon, Angelica Goodden (2005)
Interesting contrast with the von Arnim bio, because I already knew von Arnim’s books well but picked this up after seeing one self-portrait of Kauffman’s in an exhibition at the Uffizi last year. So when Walker delved into the books alongside the life, that was really interesting, but when Goodden did the same with art history detail I was tempted to skim. Kauffman was absolutely dedicated to her art, despite doing a self-portrait where she depicts herself choosing between art and music. Her father was a painter, she got the best art education she could (though people claimed she suffered from not having done anatomy and life drawing), and successfully managed her work and image to support herself entirely by her own production in several different countries, all of which considered and still consider her a local, or adoptive local, artist.

The Blue Sapphire, D.E. Stevenson (1963)
I think this is the only book I’ve ever read where speculation in shares goes well. Charming romance that feels as if it’s set much earlier than the publication date. It begins in London and continues in Scotland. It has good found family and growing up—but a young woman not knowing what she wants to do and getting a job in a hat shop seems more 1933 than 1963. Still, I suppose there are still hat shops today, and certainly uncles, and maybe even sapphire prospectors, who knows?

Enough Rope, Dorothy Parker (1926)
Delightful well-turned collection of Dorothy Parker’s poetry, free from Project Gutenberg, containing all the poems of hers I already knew and many I did not. Very much one note, that note being “And I am Marie of Romania,” but as it’s a note otherwise utterly missing from English poetry I’ll take it and giggle.

The School at the Chalet, Elinor M. Brent-Dyer (1925)
Re-read. After reading that disappointing modern school story last month, it occurred to me to look at what might be available as ebooks and this was. This is in the special category of re-reads that are things I read as a kid and haven’t revisited. There are lots of Chalet School books, this is the first. Madge and her close female friend Mademoiselle set up a school in a chalet in Austria so that Madge’s invalid but madcap sister Jo and Mademoiselle’s niece Simone can live healthily while being educated in English, French, and German, and other pupils will pay for rent and food. They acquire other pupils with ease, and proceed to have school adventures in the Austrian Tyrol. In 1925. I remember impending war forcing them out of Austria and then Italy in later volumes.

There’s a thing about a book like this where it’s gripping even though there’s no actual suspense. There was one moment where I was reading fervently with tears in my eyes when something interrupted me and as I picked the book up again I thought a) I have read this before, b) it’s a kid’s book, the character will survive, c) the peril is entirely implausible, and d) I really, really cared nevertheless and wanted to get back to it and let all the things I was supposed to be doing go hang. I’d happily re-read all the other volumes if they were available.

Moon Over Soho, Ben Aaronovitch (2011)
Second in the Rivers of London series, just as gripping as the first which I read in April, and dealing well with both having a new adventure and the consequences of the first book. Great voice. Great worldbuilding, consistent with first book and widening implications and scope. Good characters. Slightly too much blood and horror, just about where it’s worth it, but I can already see how much more I will enjoy re-reading braced. I’ll definitely keep reading this series. Start at the beginning, though.

Guilty Creatures: A Menagerie of Mysteries, Martin Edwards (2021)
I’ve read a bunch of these British Library Crime Classics themed Golden Age of Mystery short story collections, and I always enjoy them. They often, as here, have one Sherlock Holmes story and a bunch of things by other writers. It was fun seeing what animals Edwards managed to find—just one nobbled racehorse! My favourite was a jackdaw. It’s also a good way of finding new-to-me mystery writers. This isn’t the best in the series, but I enjoyed it anyway.

London With Love, Sarra Manning (2022)
I love Manning, everything except last year’s lacklustre book about the dog. This one was excellent—a romance that begins in 1987 with sixteen-year-olds and comes forward in time to the day last year that Britain allowed people out of their bubbles to meet up with people again. Most of the chapters take place a couple of years apart. All of them feature stations on the London Underground or New York subway. All of them feature our protagonist Jenny/Jen/Jennifer as she reinvents herself and grows up, and her friend Nick as he finally also grows up. This is such a great lifetime book, and such a great London book, and the history of the time as it affects the people living through it. I couldn’t stop thinking about it. It’s also the first time I’ve seen the pandemic in a romance novel, though I doubt it will be the last. (Manning was writing this in lockdown. I am in awe.) This is the kind of romance that many people would enjoy and deserves to be more widely read.

The Name of the Rose, Umberto Eco (1980)
Re-read. I read it when I was in university, and it’s funny, I no longer think it’s weird to have a book set in a monastery, or about the questions of knowledge and pride and heresy. I didn’t understand this book properly when I was eighteen. I still found parts of it slow and hard going, and it certainly is very peculiar. It has the form of a mystery, but that’s just the thread to open it up to the wider questions Eco is interested in examining. Weird, fascinating novel.

Wedding Bells At Villa Limoncello, Daisy James (2019)
Do you want a romance novel set in Italy? Did you actually want the forty-eight romance novels set in Italy I’ve read since March 2020? (I just counted.) Maybe you didn’t. You’ve been very patient. I didn’t know I did. This is not a good book. It’s not terrible. I’ll be reading the sequels, indeed I’ve already bought them. But this one is absolutely classic—there’s an unhappy person, and she goes to Italy, and everything gets fixed, just because it’s beautiful and there is good food and Italian people and therefore suddenly everything is therefore fine. However, I didn’t read this book in 2020 because it contains a dead sister, and that’s a hard subject for me. But now I did read it, and it was fun.

The Memory Theater, Karin Tidbeck (2021)
Brilliant novel that takes ideas about fairyland and ideas about other worlds and pulls off a terrific fantasy. Tidbeck is a Swedish writer who writes in both Swedish and English; this is an English original, with very delicate, precise use of language that reminded me of Angela Carter. There’s fairyland, there’s Sweden, there’s a theatre troupe, there’s a girl whose mother is a mountain and a truly conscienceless villain. Unforgettable. This is the kind of European fantasy we need more of.

Saplings, Noel Streatfeild (1945)
Re-read. Streatfeild is known for her children’s books. This is not one. This is a book where she takes her ability to write brilliantly from children’s POV and also from the POV of adults and gives us a book about how WWII destroyed a family even though only one person in it is killed. It’s really good, and absolutely compelling, but also a tragedy. But it’s written just like her children’s books, which makes reading it an experience more comparable to L.M. Montgomery’s Rilla of Ingleside than anything else I can think of.

The Bookseller of Florence, Ross King (2021)
Delightful, readable biography of Vespasiano da Bisticci, bookseller and producer of manuscripts. If you are interested in the history of books, in the Renaissance classical revival, in Florence in the fifteenth century, in Marsilio Ficino, you want to read this. King’s best book since Brunelleschi’s Dome and full of useful fascinating information. Absolutely splendid, loved it to bits, and I think almost anyone would, because he assumes an intelligent reader without much background knowledge.

Jo Walton is a science fiction and fantasy writer. She’s published two collections of Tor.com pieces, three poetry collections, a short story collection and fifteen novels, including the Hugo- and Nebula-winning Among Others. Her novel Lent was published by Tor in May 2019, and her most recent novel, Or What You Will, was released in July 2020. She reads a lot, and blogs about it here irregularly. She comes from Wales but lives in Montreal. She plans to live to be 99 and write a book every year.

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Jo Walton is the author of fifteen novels, including the Hugo and Nebula award winning Among Others two essay collections, a collection of short stories, and several poetry collections. She has a new essay collection Trace Elements, with Ada Palmer, coming soon. She has a Patreon (patreon.com/bluejo) for her poetry, and the fact that people support it constantly restores her faith in human nature. She lives in Montreal, Canada, and Florence, Italy, reads a lot, and blogs about it here. It sometimes worries her that this is so exactly what she wanted to do when she grew up.
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2 years ago

Just finished a re-read of Rilla of Ingleside recently and definitely did not expect to see it referenced anywhere these days!!  One of my all-time favs that never fails to bring me to tears.

Always love these posts, Jo – thank you for doing them!  I always decide to pick up at least a few of the books based on your thoughtful and personal responses to them.  Now, going to find a copy of both Memory Theater and The School at the Chalet.  Thank you!!  I really do need to read David Mitchell someday but…not this day.  His works sound fascinating, just never muster up the courage to take the plunge.  I quite love Surprised by Joy, but that may also be because I love Lewis’ writing in general.  This book was a particular delight for me when I read it, as it has a delightful mix of personal introspection as well as a raw and honest (or so it seems) appraisal of his past self.  I much appreciate the glimpses he gives us into his life and thoughts.

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2 years ago

Okay, I’m convinced! I’ll read Utopia Avenue soon, even though I don’t usually like rock music novels! D. E. Stevenson is on my TBR pile too! And I must get to THE MEMORY THEATER also.

I wondered about Tidbeck and Swedish versus English writing … at first I thought she wrote everything in Swedish first, then did her own translation. Bilingual writers like that (and like Conrad and Nabokov) fascinate me, and I think they often write remarkable English prose, partly because they first used another language.

My wife gave up on Emily Giffin a while ago, even though she’s from my hometown. (Though she is much younger than me.)

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Clare
2 years ago

I think it’s so interesting that you saw Utopia Avenue as a direct sequel to Jacob deZoet. Many (all?) of his books are same universe, but it’s more like a network or web than a straight line. I figured that The Bone Clocks was essential to putting them together…but apparently not! I think you can read them in whatever order, and if you like to do the Easter egg hunting to put them together, then great! But personally, I prefer the individual stories to the bigger meta-story. Anyway, I think you should read Black Swan Green next because I remember loving it, though it’s been a while.   Also, if you don’t like Cloud Atlas, skip Ghostwritten, which feels like a less polished version.

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2 years ago

Jo – happy to hear you like the second Rivers of London book.  I was inspired by your April post and just read…all of them (I finished yesterday).  I was quite impressed by the consistent quality maintained and the consistent enjoyment factor with the principal books plus some shorter works at the end that expand the world a bit.  I care about his world and the characters in it, similar to what I feel for works of Jim Butcher, Lois Bujold, CJ Cherryh, Patrick O’Brien and other authors with strong worldbuilding.  

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Lynda
2 years ago

I am so glad that I am not the only one who thought The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet, is better than Cloud Atlas.  Actually, its the only Mitchell that I have liked at all, so I might have to pick up Utopia Avenue.  And I hope everyone reading this goes out and buys Memory Theatre.  

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Me.
2 years ago

The Chalet School books are a favourite comfort read for me.  The Chalet School in Exile (fourteenth in the series) transcends the usual school story formula, as the multi-cultural boarding school, located in the Austrian Alps, with Austrian and German students, deals with the Anschluss and having to flee the Nazi controlled areas to start over again.  It’s a very compassionate and nuanced look at the situation (with daring escapes and rescues, and the usual school story adventures). 

 

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Pedro Dias
2 years ago

I’m perplexed by your read on KJ Parker. It is very true that his take on women and relationships are often very odd, but I feel that that is down to the fact that his male characters are usually odd themselves, and are entirely blind in these matters. In the Engineer books, for instance, the protagonist is pretty clearly deeply defective (also, it is not his wife that drives him, but his daughter, as I read it.) As portraits of emotional pathology, I find Parker’s tales remarkable.

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DanielB
2 years ago

I’m sorry to see you sign up for this weird mysandry of our time, but I still enjoy reading your reviews and mini-reviews, even if I’m not that keen on romance in Italy. I feel envidia sana (non-malicious envy, literally “healthy envy”..  why doesn’t this expression exist in English?) of how much you read.

I also enjoy old boarding school fiction, both boys and girls schools. Have you read Tom Brown’s School Days, or any school novel by Talbot Baines Reed? A good number of Chalet School novels are available as free ebooks in fadedpage, but it’s only legal if you’re in Canada or another Lifetime+50 copyright country.

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Msb
2 years ago

“But I suspect he wouldn’t be able to hear me, that perhaps the pitch of my voice would be inaudible to him.” A condition more prevalent than one would wish.

yes, Parker has a limited range but she’s so fabulous in it. 
“Why is it no one’s sent me yet

A perfect limousine, do you suppose? 

Ah, no, it’s just my fate to get

One, perfect rose.”

 

I found Moon over Soho off putting the first time I read it. Read it again recently and changed my mind. Hope you keep liking them as much as I do. Like RomMRobM, I care about these people and their world very much. 

David_Goldfarb
2 years ago

Would Heyer’s Cotillion count as another book where stock speculation works out?

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2 years ago

I just discovered Internet Archive has Chalet School books, https://archive.org/search.php?query=brent-dyer I’ve been using it to read a couple of the later ones that I’d never been able to obtain. The post war books moved the school to Switzerland, after spending time on Guernsey, Herefordshire and a Welsh island.

 

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Josh Keidan
2 years ago

I always enjoy your takes on books, and your recommendations, so thanks for the series! Have you read Vikram Seth’s A Suitable Boy yet? The length (1488 pp, if I recall correctly) is off-putting to many, but I loved it, and when a group of my students chose to read it they loved it as well. It central plot has to do with a young woman in an Hindu family whose turn it is to get married (hence the need for “a suitable boy”), set at the time of Indian independence and partition, and is about the relationship between tradition and freedom, whether in politics, religion, or within an individual life. 

Supposedly there is a sequel coming out in the near future, set in the 1970s, and I’m curious to see what that looks like.

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2 years ago

I shall need to try the Chalet school books- school stories recommended by Jo- deal me in!

I felt The Blue Sapphire was a slighter D.E. Stevenson, but still enjoyed it.  I too am shocked- I didn’t think that was 1963.  The House on the Cliff may be my favorite of hers, outside of the Mrs.. Tim books.

 

 

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Cosmogyral
2 years ago

I haven’t gotten to try Something Fabulous yet but have heard consistently mixed reviews. Hall and general romance readers should definitely try a newer Regency of his called A Lady for a Duke which I thought was really something special. It’s probably my favorite friends-to-lovers plot I’ve consumed, there are some really sweet sibling relationships, and it’s in the same neighborhood for my mileage of KJ Charles and Cat Sebastian in fulfilling romantic fantasy without using the era as set dressing. M/F with a trans heroine, which is unusual in itself and took up a lot of the marketing ink, and it makes me very happy that that was only one of the reasons I’ve found to recommend it–hope it widens the door for trans romances!

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Mike Cross
2 years ago

If anyone ever wants to know if I’ve read something, checking this site will often bring up a post about it if I have.

 

You can also search a database of Jo’s Tor.Com posts at http://www.michaelcross.me.uk/jowalton/index.html. You can list the posts by months, author, and work, and also search post titles.

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2 years ago

Hi Jo,

I always enjoy and benefit a lot from your reading lists and reviews. Iwas wondering, since you read a ton, what your approach is to owning books in your home collection. What do you decide to buy and keep? How do you organize? What other uses do book rooms have? 

I read a lot of books digitally from the library these days, which makes me think a lot more about bringing in books permanently into the house. So, I’m just curious.

PS. The Just City was my favorite book this summer!

 

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2 years ago

Hi Jo,

Thanks for a rich and fascinating answer, and for satisfying my curiosity! I don’t know if you’ve written about it before, but I’d love to read about your sixteen books at a time system (and how you got into that). People’s intellectual and creative infrastructure is always super interesting to learn about.

 Thanks again, and looking forward to the next column!  

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2 years ago

As a kid, I read very little fiction from the first half of the 20th century, but I voluntarily picked up and really enjoyed The School at the Chalet. Kind of timeless in a sense! I’d like to revisit it as an adult.

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2 years ago

I love your lists. I’ve added Aaronovitch and Parker to my list. 

My ears really perked up when I read your description of the Sarra Manning novel. I get a thrill when reading books where a decent amount of time is spent in a subway stations, train stations or any sort of mass transit system. I loved the Colorless Tsukuru Tazaki and His Years of Pilgrimage by Haruki Murakami for many reasons, but loved the main character’s time spent and musings on the Japanese railroad system. Jo have you read any nonfiction on mass transit you would recommend or more fictional books where a lot of time is spent in such a place. I know it is an odd request. Thank you! 

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2 years ago

 It’s very helpful to me that you describe the “Rivers of London” book as having “slightly too much blood and horror.” There were so many things I really liked about the first book, but…. This confirms that my threshold is unusually low. (I’ve had friends suggest I try to change this — to get me to violent movies, mostly — but that raises my moral hackles.)

Jo, please do continue to write about all these detailed aspects of books. So much more helpful that standard book reviews (journalistic or crowd-sourced) to my decision about trying a book.

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Francis Spufford
2 years ago

Jo, have you come across Chaz Brenchley’s two Crater School books? School stories set on the Mars of the pulps, as ruled around 1900 by the British Empire. Heavily influenced by his childhood pleasure in reading his sister’s Chalet School books, and a labour of love with only an inevitable degree of irony.

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Marla J.
2 years ago

@10–Why is it “weird mysandry” if the author wants to give her opinion of KJ Parker/Tom Holt’s attitude? I don’t think that’s misandry at all (I’m using the American spelling).

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2 years ago

Thank you Jo. All of your recommendations are new to me. I appreciate you taking the time and look forward to your next column.

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2 years ago

@25 – re books that involve lots of subway and train stations, you may find that an appealing part of the Rivers of London books described in the post and comments.  Lots of characters move about by subways or trains, several crimes and even full books are focused on trains and train stations.  (As a teaser, there is a reason why Book 3 is called Whispers Underground.)

Another would be the Foreigner books by CJ Cherryh.  Much of the traveling on the Atevi homeworld is done via train and there are many scenes set in or near trains.    

Mel-EpicReading
2 years ago

Utopia Avenue has been on my TBR since before it’s release. I really need to bump it up the list! 

I‘m always curious to see how books that seemingly have similar plots stand up to one another. Grady Hendrix ‘We Sold Our Souls’ is an amazing story of a band selling out (to the worst of the worst) for fame and I absolutely loved it! 
Although squeamish folks beware Hendrix does not hold back on describing bugs, damp/dark spaces, and blood/gore.
I expect Utopia Avenue to be different yet hold parallels. 

A lovely list Jo Walton! A few I’m not familiar with. 
While I didn’t love ‘Or What You Will’ personally; your previous short fiction I’ve read has been superb. And I do appreciate that if I’m ever to write my own fiction/fantasy novel that ‘Or What You Will’ holds lots of great advice for the aspiring writer! Did you give all your secrets away?!

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Dana
2 years ago

With Rivers of London, be aware that the graphic novels have stories that are part of the world. If you are reading only the books, you may miss some bits. I am lucky and can read the graphic novels from my library via Hoopla. They’ve been entertaining and do add to the series.

willie_mctell
2 years ago

“The Name of the Rose” is one of my all time favorites.  It is one of the best takes on the interface between the Middle Ages and the Renaissance.  The conflict between the two mindsets is fascinating and very well drawn.  I was a history major and liked the transition between the two eras almost as much as Greek and Roman history.  I put a lot of effort into not taking any classes about anything after the 17th century.  The question of the poverty of the early church is another favorite of mine.  Eco managed to package a ton of cultural history in a suspenseful mystery where neither interfered with each other.  All of the major characters are fully realized with none of them being just the voice of a point of view. 

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2 years ago

Adding SAPLINGS to my list, as I loved all Streadfeild’s kids’ books and consider RILLA OF INGLESIDE critical reading for anyone looking at home fronts in the Great War (one of my awesome children got me the restored, annotated RILLA for my birthday a while ago).

Also adding THE MEMORY THEATER, as I’m one of the biggest theatre nerds around. (How nerdy? Well, in my BROADWAY REVIVAL, I send a time traveler back to 1934 to save George Gershwin from that tumor and alter musical theatre history.)

Thanks for the terrific list!

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2 years ago

Jo, I haven’t read the graphic novels in the Rivers of London series, and I’m understanding them just fine. As I’m a completist, I’ll probably check out the graphic novels now that Dana says they have new stories, but I don’t think you need to do that to follow what’s going on.

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OBC
2 years ago

Many thanks for these lists. If I recall, Elizabeth Gaskell’s ‘North and South’ is another book where there is a minor plot point of a stock speculation that works out, and has a major influence on the novel’s ending. 

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2 years ago

I didn’t enjoy the graphic novels in the Rivers of London series nearly as much as the books. But also, I didn’t dip into them until I’d read all the books so I didn’t have those “bits and bobs” to fill in blanks or fill out plot points while I read the books. It’s no different from any other series for which worldbuilding is enriched by further detail, but is not absolutely necessary (I’m thinking of the glossary added to The Goblin Emperor books, for example). Also, I haven’t done a full survey, but not all of the graphic novels are entirely written by Aaronovitch, are they? (I’m asking RobMRobM and Dana to check for us).

Anyway, don’t give up, Jo. You’ll enjoy all the books (I think).

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2 years ago

I am another who has read all of the Rivers of London novels and novellas, but none (or almost none) of the graphic novels, and I have felt no lack from going without them.  Just putting in my own two cents…

As others have said, I enjoy your monthly reviews!  I have read few of them myself, but some may have pointed me in the direction of what to read next. :-)  Thank you for sharing them.

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twothig
2 years ago

The Rivers of London comics and graphic novels are published by Titan comics –

https://titan-comics.com/news/rivers-of-london/

shows issues up to April 2020 with a graphic Reader’s Guide that says – “The Rivers of London comics and graphic novels are an essential part of the saga. Though they each stand alone, together they add a fascinating depth to the wider world of Peter Grant and the Folly!”.

The blurb is not forthcoming but all of the comics are cowritten by Andrew Cartmel. Rivers of London – Deadly Ever After came out in May and adds Celeste Bronfman as a writer.

https://www.comicon.com/2022/04/21/titan-comics-reveal-a-first-look-at-rivers-of-london-deadly-ever-after-1/

 

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Dana
2 years ago

I think you can still really enjoy Rivers of London without the graphic novels. I wanted people to know that the graphic novels are new material and are canon rather than being retellings. I’d encourage you to keep reading the series even if you refuse to touch the graphic novels!

 

That said, I have found graphic novels to be really enjoyable. The Monstress series is absolutely amazing IMO and I don’t think that story could be done in the same way in prose. Reading on a tablet lets me enlarge the font and view details I can’t see in print books, but I am collecting Monstress in print.

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2 years ago

Dana, yes, I use my tablet too! And I’m so glad that sometimes, when I figure out how to make it work right, it will actually move from frame to enlarged frame (rather than from whole page to whole page)—I love it! However, I confess, I still find it more difficult to follow the plot in this form. I guess I am distracted by the visuals (as I sometimes also am in movies or TV that has rich production values).

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Aelfrida
2 years ago

The Rivers of London graphics and short stories remind me of Sherlock Holmes fanfic, filling out some of the details of cases mentioned casually in the canonical texts (and great fun!) but not really affecting the main story. 

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2 years ago

I have not read the Rivers of London graphic novels so I can’t weigh in on whether they “improve” the books but I enjoyed the books on their own.  Please don’t stop reading them, Jo.   

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2 years ago

Jo, there are offhand references to plot points or characters from the graphic novels, and you might feel a momentary sense of disorientation like “wait—did I forget something from one of the novels I just read?” That was my reaction, but since none of it *is* absolutely essential, I enjoyed all the novels without having ever tried the graphics in between. I only discovered them later, hoping for more of this new world I fell in love with. [Notice: I believe only one person suggested that they were essential: Dana in her first post, and even she backpedaled later!]

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2 years ago

I would echo Aelfrida — I feel like the references to the graphic novels in the Rivers of London books are like Watson mentioning a case of Holmes’s that he can’t ever release to the public. It’s in no way essential to understanding what’s going on, just an indication that the novels don’t cover Peter Grant’s whole life.

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2 years ago

: like Watson mentioning a case of Holmes’s that he can’t ever release to the public

Good comparison. We would have loved to read those other cases, but not having them does not spoil our enjoyment of what we do have.

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Dana
2 years ago

The description on the map (link above and written out in post 42) says the graphic novels are “essential”. I don’t believe they are essential. I think I had read through The Furthest Station before reading any of the graphic novels and it wasn’t a problem.

Some graphic novels are adaptations of books (Parable of the Sower as a recent one). These are different and continue the stories. Viewing them like short stories or novellas is a great way to go. (The Holmes stories is a good way to see them too.)

The books have become preorder books for me, so I definitely wouldn’t discourage you from reading them, even if you will never touch a graphic novel. It was one of the books that showed me where I had a blind spot about race as well. Peter Grant was going door to door on an investigation and was describing the race of each person he was talking with. I had the thought, “Why does he keep saying everyone is white?” Then a moment later, “OH! There’s my prejudice thinking of white as the default.” I don’t know when I’d have put that together, but I’m very glad I saw it thanks to Aaronovitch.

Ilona Andrews and Ben Aaronovitch are my “preorder” urban fantasy authors. Patricia Briggs, Seanan McGuire, Steven Blackmore, Carrie Vaughn are must reads, although I may wait until the library has them. Benedict Jacka is another British urban fantasy, but Aaronovitch has the police procedural and snark that makes him a must read IMO.

I will continue with the graphic novels when our library gets them, but I’d still be buying and reading the novels even if I never picked up another graphic novel. I haven’t seen “essential” anywhere other than in the comic description. Go with the Holmes analogy and keep reading the books, pretending you never heard from me! (Or I’ll feel dreadfully guilty and never post again!)

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Dana
2 years ago

*Phew*

I’ve really enjoyed them. Hope you do too.

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2 years ago

@47 – Jo, not at all.  I could follow what is going on quite well, as far as I can tell.  I have read several of the novellas that Aaronovitch also wrote in the world.  I’m not sure I would view any of them as critical to understanding the principal books …but I liked them.  One gave more backstory on an interesting minor character in the main books.  One dealt with magic outside of the London area in a place with which we had not experienced in the book, with different characters.  One was a shorter and more limited version of the type of story we’d seen in a principal book.  All well executed and enjoyable.  I’m was assuming the graphic novels would be the same.  

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2 years ago

Dana — you mention the novellas — they are much more important to the chronology than the graphic novels, I think, and well worth reading!

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Keren
2 years ago

Another person happy to read of your love of the chalet school series. 

Since you are in Canada, you can read more on https://www.fadedpage.com/csearch.php?author=Brent-Dyer,%20Elinor%20Mary

 

Faded page site.

Also, they are being republished and you can find them on Amazon etc

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Bristol
2 years ago

Just to say for anyone who might be reminded of the Chalet School books, they’ve all been reprinted (using the unabridged text and the original cover art) in the last 20 years by Girls Gone By Publishers, many now out of print but available still from various sources (and various titles are now being reprinted for a second time). There are also two Chalet School clubs, The Friends of the Chalet School and The New Chalet Club, which produce magazines about the books, the author and the relevant social history. Lots of adult fans out there!