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“What, is there more?”: Steven Brust’s Five Hundred Years After

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“What, is there more?”: Steven Brust’s Five Hundred Years After

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Published on December 2, 2009

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Five Hundred Years After is a direct sequel to The Phoenix Guards but the interesting thing about it is what a different kind of book it is. The Phoenix Guards is an unabashed romp, this is quite a serious novel—after all it is the story of something known to history as “Adron’s Disaster.” As The Phoenix Guards is very loosely based on The Three Musketeers, this is even more loosely based on the sequel, Twenty Years After. But while The Phoenix Guards is about equally rooted in Dumas and Dragaera, this is much more a work of Dragaeran historical fiction, and a kind of meta-commentary on the whole concept of historical fiction.

It is a commonplace for a historical novel to deal with an event with which the readers are familiar. Readers may not know the details of the French Revolution, or the Civil War, but when they pick up a novel about it they’ll know at least that heads will be lost by, on the one hand aristocrats, and on the other King Charles. It’s possible for the writer to use that knowledge to draw upon historical irony to underline the story. It’s a very unusual thing for a fantasy novel to do, because the reader doesn’t have that background—usually in genre fiction the writer has to feed the reader the context along with the story. Brust gets away with it here because we’ve been hearing about Adron’s Disaster since Jhereg, and anyone who has read the books up to this point does know of the event in general outline. I have no idea what Five Hundred Years After would look like to someone who hadn’t read the Vlad books. I wanted to read it as soon as I’d finished The Phoenix Guards, but Emmet (who, you may remember, vastly prefers reading in publication order) absolutely insisted that I had to have read at least Jhereg first. I think it would have been a very different experience, and I’d like to hear from anyone who did this—but what I wouldn’t have had is the interesting experience of historical inevitability informing a fantasy novel.

All of the ingredients of The Phoenix Guards are here, but the tone is much less carefree. For much of the book Khaavren is lonely and alone, he is only united with all his friends at once at the end. There’s a feeling of inevitable doom hanging over everything, until at last doom strikes.

In a flash, in an instant, all were gone, as was the Palace and all the landmarks and buildings by which the city was known and for which it was loved, as well as those others, all but unknown yet landmarks in their own way—the Silver Exchange, the Nine Bridges Canal, Pamlar University, the nameless cabaret in the Underside where Lord Garland had conspired with his daughter, the equally nameless inn where, upon entering the Guard five hundred years before, Khaavren had killed a man named Frai. All of these were now gone forever, preserved only in the memories of those who had seen them, or in such works of art as happened to depict them—of all the buildings and artifacts by which the city was known, only the Orb itself was preserved.

The Phoenix Guards is a comedy and Five Hundred Years After is a tragedy—yet it’s a tragedy told in comic mode. Paarfi remains as funny as ever, with his asides and manner of speech. The inimitable banter is as good as ever. Khaavren finds true love, and all the friends miraculously escape the calamity. Of all of this I’m least satisfied with the romance; it is (as Paarfi acknowledges) perfunctory—when all the other characterisation is so good, Daro remains a cypher. I also find the villains less interesting than in The Phoenix Guards.

Of course Paarfi contradicts some of what we thought we knew about Adron’s Disaster, and gives us another angle on it entirely. That Aliera and the almost mythical Mario should be having a relationship is news, and the way the disaster came about isn’t at all what Aliera told Vlad in Jhereg. Aliera wouldn’t have talked to Paarfi—but he’s undoubtedly right about all the checkable details.

Paarfi wrote this several years after the events of the Vlad novels as we have them, in the reign of Norathar. He was writing as early as the time of Phoenix, because Cawti reads one of his romances. He therefore lives after the Interregnum, at a time when sorcery is vastly more powerful, teleporting others or oneself is common, and telepathic communication is trivial. It’s strange that he writes about Sethra’s teleport as something astonishing and unheard of and as if he’s expecting his readers to be astonished by it. David Goldfarb suggests in the Phoenix Guards thread:

I have a strong suspicion that magic wasn’t quite so difficult nor rare during this period as Paarfi portrays it. I think Paarfi doesn’t like magic, and rewrites his histories to downplay it.

That would explain a lot.


Jo Walton is a science fiction and fantasy writer. She’s published eight novels, most recently Half a Crown and Lifelode, and two poetry collections. She reads a lot, and blogs about it here regularly. She comes from Wales but lives in Montreal where the food and books are more varied.

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Jo Walton is the author of fifteen novels, including the Hugo and Nebula award winning Among Others two essay collections, a collection of short stories, and several poetry collections. She has a new essay collection Trace Elements, with Ada Palmer, coming soon. She has a Patreon (patreon.com/bluejo) for her poetry, and the fact that people support it constantly restores her faith in human nature. She lives in Montreal, Canada, and Florence, Italy, reads a lot, and blogs about it here. It sometimes worries her that this is so exactly what she wanted to do when she grew up.
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DRickard
15 years ago

Hey Jo–A bit of nitpicking here; you might want to clarify this passage for your Yank readers:

“Readers may not know the details of the French Revolution, or the Civil War, but when they pick up a novel about it they’ll know at least that heads will be lost by, on the one hand aristocrats, and on the other King Charles.”

We Americans are going to instinctively think of our Civil War & be thrown by the King Charles clause.

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DoyceT
15 years ago

Five Hundred Years After was the first Brust book I ever read. The Vlad books had been recommended to me for a decade, but I’d avoided them for some reason I’m not clear on now.

So my order of reading went something like:
500 years.
Brokedown Castle.
Phoenix Guard.
Taltos books.

So, to me, it’s always been the Taltos books that seemed ‘off’, compared to style/history/characterization of the historicals.

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Rob_of_Krum
15 years ago

And don’t forget the 3-part finale, _The_Viscount_of_Adrilankha_ comprised of:

_The_Lord_of_Castle_Black_,
_The_Paths_of_the_Dead_,
and _Sethra_Lavode_

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Rob_of_Krum
15 years ago

And don’t forget the 3-part finale, _The_Viscount_of_Adrilankha_ comprised of:

_The_Lord_of_Castle_Black_,
_The_Paths_of_the_Dead_,
and _Sethra_Lavode_

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15 years ago

I did read it after the Vlad books, unfortunately. IMHO, for somebody coming in without the fore-knowledge it would have been even better. I have read the prequels before the main series a couple of times and it was immensely satisfying – because prequels have the freedom and indeed are often required to eschew the obligatory happy ends of main sequence books/series.

So, when I am reading a prequel first, it is one of the rare times when I can be genuinely surprised by an ending of a speculative fiction book. Which is quite sad, actually.

Anyway, I absolutely love 500 Years After. And as to villains being less interesting – I beg to differ. Lord Adron e’Kieron is one of the more poignant antagonists I know.

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15 years ago

One of my favorite parts about the Paarfi books is the namedrops for some of Brust’s friends–I had forgotten about that until I saw “Pamlar University” mentioned in the part you quoted. (It doesn’t stand out as such there, but if you read the forward by the Dean of Pamlar University…)

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15 years ago

– I guessed as soon as I realised Jo was using “the Civil War” in its proper (well, proper UK) context that some USAian would complain…

These reviews have prompted me to try and find some of this series. I have come across references to Vlad Taltos quite alot over the last 20 years, but have never come across any of the books in the UK: neither in the shops or in the library. I have a couple on order from Amazon, but as they have taken to sending my orders via a postal carrier which seems incapable of a) successful delivery to my house, or b) having a pick-up point which is reasonably accessible to those limited to public transport, I suspect I will have to wait until world (inevitably!) realises the benefits of ebooks…

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15 years ago

Bluejo:

Well, arguably Adron is the biggest villain of the piece. Also, I kind of liked that the crisis was spurred on not by some diabolically adept masterminds , but by petty, mediocre people with selfish concerns. Very realistic, that.

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15 years ago

iopgod: I have been trying for the better part of two decades to interest British publishers in Steven Brust’s work. Unfortunately, the first few Vlad novels were published over there in the late 1980s in a pair of omnibus volumes featuring what I’m afraid are two of the worst covers ever published. (Vlad looks like Hans or Franz from the SNL sketch about Hans and Frans who are here to Pump You Up.) But you’d think that after twenty years someone would think it was time to try again. The Vlad books get published in a bunch of other European countries, successfully I gather.

aedifica: In fact, that preface by the “Dean of Pamlar University” is by Pamela Dean. The copyright page doesn’t give the gag away, the way it does on each of the remaining three volumes, which feature pseudonymous essays ostensibly by various Dragaeran figures but actually written by Neil Gaiman, Teresa Nielsen Hayden, and John M. Ford.

Five Hundred Years After is quite simply one of my favorite epic fantasy novels of the post-Tolkien era. I’ve re-read it several times, always with pleasure. And the passage about Adron’s Disaster itself never fails to chill me, as Paarfi explains, in a string of perfectly loopy Paarfiisms, that he has deliberately chosen “to omit any references to children, babies, or even pets (with the exception of certain unimportant fishes)” in the narrative so far, since given the horror of the Disaster itself, to do so would have been “to give in to the basest, lowest form of literary theatricality.” I love this series, and I love the Dragaeran books overall, but this novel an awesome piece of work.

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15 years ago

One of the things that makes these books work so well is because of the length of time that Dragaerans live, they don’t seem to have a lot of push or ambition, so society doesn’t change much or very fast. How else could a human move up the ranks so quickly?

If teleporting isn’t more common, how the heck does Mario survive?

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15 years ago

Actually, this whole aspect of Vlad storyline never made any particular sense to me. Because sure, some Dragaerans would tend to take a long view on things, but they are hardly retards and some of them are both very ambitious and ready to take risks.
It is kind of a vestige of DnD et al. approach to long-lived races – how have them in the same party as the humans without making humans obsolete? By making them veeryy sloow when off-screen, apparently.

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Foxessa
15 years ago

I can’t quite remember in which order I read the books — and I haven’t read them all, because some volumes are not available.

But reading Five Hundred Years After made much more sense of the previous books I’d read.

FWIW, as for the Civil War and King Charles I, for one, knew to which war the writer referred, that it wasn’t the War of Southern of Aggression.

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Foxessa
15 years ago

In fact I’ve read the books in no order whatsoever, only as they appear.

So the first one I read was Jhegaala.

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Foxessa
15 years ago

Eeeps! That should be clarified “as they appear,” meaning as I come across one title or another.

It’s so frustrating that I’ve never yet found Taltos, Orca or Issola.

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15 years ago

All three are in print — Taltos and Orca as part of the Ace trade paperback omnibuses The Book of Taltos and The Book of Athyra, respectively; and Issola as a stand-alone mass-market paperback from Tor.

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15 years ago

“because of the length of time that Dragaerans live, they don’t seem to have a lot of push or ambition, so society doesn’t change much or very fast.”

The relatively static nature of Dragaeran society is not, I think, particularly due to the length of their lifespan. Rather, it probably has a lot to do with external stabilizing influences such as The Cycle and The Gods. Dragaera has kept approximately the same culture and system of governance for over two hundred *thousand* years. That’s several orders of magnitude longer than all of human history so far, with all of its multifarious changes. As far as we can tell, the East has had similar stability. For instance, there are several reasons to believe that the Fenarian language is essentially identical to modern Hungarian. That degree of stability is Not Natural, so we must look outside nature for the cause.

“How else could a human move up the ranks so quickly?”

Vlad is clearly Special, and Special people rise fast. Note, for example, how quickly Morrolan rises to prominence in the latter Paarfi books. Or, for that matter, Zerika herself.

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ojiikun
15 years ago

I read FHYA directly after reading TPG and before ever having touched a Vlad novel.

The “ending” to FHYA – that is to say, Adron’s Disaster – was a complete surprise to me, and one of the most powerful moments of fiction I’ve ever experienced. I read TPG a full 3 times when I first got it, so strong was my love for the prose and the characters. Not having even read the back cover of FHYA, even the name of The Disaster was unknown to me. Alas, when Adron quips, “I’ve more power at my command than any sorcerer in history and nothing to do with it” and sends our heros to safety before obliterating everything I’ve ever known of Dragaera, it was so stunning I couldn’t pick up the book to read the final chapter for almost a whole day.

I’m not sure there are many of us for whom The Disaster was a genuine surprise, but Brust’s rendition of it in FHYA is in no way corrupted or spoiled by his having written it after all the other books.

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e e e kyle
15 years ago

Ojiikun:

the same thing happened for me. i was given TPG & FHYA as a gift by my parents, knowing that i was a big dumas fan. i had never read anything by brust, and was given the books right before a long road trip. (i was 11 at the time, so…13 years ago).

i devoured the books and immediately read them both cover to cover again. i’ve probably re-read each book 10+ times and they propelled me on a lifelong love of brust’s work. i was very happy to not have known what happened, as these books can absolutely stand alone. adron’s folly was both shocking and devastating in a way that it wouldn’t have been with foreknowledge.

doyceT: i also have had this…my initial exposure to Drageara through TPG & FHYA somehow seems more ‘true’ to me, despite it being told by the thoroughly, THOROUGHLY unreliable narrator of Paarfi.

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